Minimizing the maximum bending moment

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The discussion focuses on minimizing the maximum bending moment by adjusting the length l3 within the constraints of l1, l2, and l4. Initial attempts to solve the problem involved plotting 3D graphs in MATLAB and trial and error, but these methods were unsuccessful due to too many unknowns. Eventually, the group realized that the minimum bending moment occurs when the positive and negative moments are equal in magnitude. After resolving their mathematical errors and plotting a bending moment versus l3 graph, they successfully solved the problem. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly setting up equations for shear and bending moments in structural analysis.
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Homework Statement


The question is asking us to minimize the maximum bending moment by changing l3.
l1=3(m)
l2=6.5(m)
l4=12(m)
P1=1200(KN)
P2=2300(KN)
P3=410(KN)
and we know that obviously, 6.5<l3<12

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The Attempt at a Solution


We made relevant cuts and acquired the equations for our bending moments in different sections of the beam.In the end,we have too many unknowns and not enough equations.We even tried plotting 3D graphs on MATLAB to find the optimum point,however we failed since we still had too many unknowns.We tried trial and error to give different values and we optimized it at l3=6.5(m),but we can't really get the value using maths.Something doesn't feel right about our method.
 

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It's very hard to help you without seeing your shear and bending moment equations. Maybe you could write these out for us?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
It's very hard to help you without seeing your shear and bending moment equations. Maybe you could write these out for us?

Chet
After a long day,we were able to solve the problem and I blame myself for the delay.
So in general,the minimum happens when the positive moments are equal to the negative moments (since we're talking about the magnitude of the moment).I came up with the idea when I read the question but I made a huge mathematical mistake which kept us from getting the answer.
So we solved the relevant equations and we even plotted bending moment vs l3 graph.
 
hamdal said:
After a long day,we were able to solve the problem and I blame myself for the delay.
So in general,the minimum happens when the positive moments are equal to the negative moments (since we're talking about the magnitude of the moment).I came up with the idea when I read the question but I made a huge mathematical mistake which kept us from getting the answer.
So we solved the relevant equations and we even plotted bending moment vs l3 graph.
Congrats. Sometimes the "arithmetic" can get pretty hairy.

Chet
 
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