Minimum and maximum resultant of three vectors.

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The discussion revolves around finding the minimum and maximum resultant of three vectors with given magnitudes: 1, 3, and 5. The original poster attempts to understand how to arrange these vectors to achieve the minimum resultant, noting that they cannot form a triangle and cannot be zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the arrangement of vectors to find the maximum resultant by aligning them in the same direction and discuss the minimum resultant by considering parallel and antiparallel configurations. Questions arise about the effect of angles between vectors on the resultant magnitude.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting specific configurations and angles to explore the resultant's behavior. There is a recognition of the need to express the resultant as a function of the angle to identify where the minimum occurs, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of constraints regarding the inability to form a triangle with the given vectors, which influences the approach to finding the minimum resultant.

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Homework Statement


In order to solve a question, I need to find the minimum and maximum resultant of three vectors, their magnitudes are given to me.

Homework Equations


Magnitude of vector A = 1
Magnitude of vector B = 3
Magnitude of vector A = 5

The Attempt at a Solution


The maximum part was easy, I just assumed them too be acting in the same direction and added the magnitudes to get the magnitude of the resultant(9 in this case).
But I am not sure about the minimum part. As it cannot form a triangle, it can't be zero. I am guessing that I have to assume them to be arranged parallel or antiparallel to each other in such a way that I get the minimum answer(5-3-1 = 1, in this case). Am I correct? If I am, then is there a strong reason for my answer to be true.
 
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Lets start with like you said. 5 pointing one direction(say +x), and 3 pointing exactly in the opposite direction(-x direction), which gives net +2 in the +x direction. Now let's start with the 1 vector starting at the end of that resultant, and being able to spin at any angle. What happens if it is at a 90° angle?
What is the magnitude of the resultant. Perhaps express it as a function of the angle, and see where the minimum occurs.
 
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Vatsal Goyal said:
As it cannot form a triangle, ... assume them to be arranged parallel or antiparallel to each other in such a way that I get the minimum answer(5-3-1 = 1, in this case).
Yes.
 
scottdave said:
Lets start with like you said. 5 pointing one direction(say +x), and 3 pointing exactly in the opposite direction(-x direction), which gives net +2 in the +x direction. Now let's start with the 1 vector starting at the end of that resultant, and being able to spin at any angle. What happens if it is at a 90° angle?
What is the magnitude of the resultant. Perhaps express it as a function of the angle, and see where the minimum occurs.
Thanks I got it! The minimum would occur when angle between them is 180 degrees meaning it is facing in the -x direction.
 
Intuitively, it looks obvious. But if you need to prove it, then that's my approach.
 
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