More examples of equations that unexpectedly model nature in similar ways

In summary, the discussion explores various equations that, despite their origins in abstract mathematics or other fields, surprisingly align with natural phenomena. Examples include the logistic equation, which models population growth, and the sine function, which describes wave patterns. These equations reveal underlying principles that govern complex systems, demonstrating the interconnectedness of mathematics and nature.
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Been dipping my toes into maths by examining how equations work on the most basic level, and I love encountering equations that turn out to model similar aspects in nature, for example the inverse square law is apparent in equations for gravity and for electromagnetism.

In the thumbnail of this video, the equations for electric and gravitational forces are very similar.

Symmetry (visual) might be the description I'm going for.

What are more examples of equations in science with visual (or functional) type of symmetry?
 
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I'm not totally clear on what you're asking, but will assume that by "symmetry" you mean equations for physical quantities that are analogous to each other. If so, here are a couple that come to mind.
Linear force F and acceleration -- F = ma
Rotational torque and rotational acceleration ##\tau = I\alpha##
In these equations the pairs force (F) and torque (##\tau##), mass (m) and moment of inertia (I), and acceleration (a) and rotational acceleration (##\alpha##) are analogous.

Another example that is more complicated is how an LRC (inductor, resistor, capacitor) electrical circuit can be described by essentially the same second-order differential equation as a damped, spring and mass system. The equation for the electrical circuit, where the source voltage is constant is ##\ddot I(t) + \frac R l \dot I(t) + \frac 1 {LC} I(t) = 0##. Here I(t) is the current at time t, R is the resistance of the resistor, L is the inductance of the coil, and C is the capacitance of the coil.

The analogous equation for a damped, spring mass system is ##\ddot x(t) + \frac c m \dot x(t) + \frac k m x(t) = 0##.
 
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I am always aware of the adage "If you have a hammer, all your problems look like a nail" which I believe is also called "Maslow's Hammer".
There are only a small number of equations that we can happily solve and so our musings lead us there. Of course that this is true may be further indication of the fundamentals of the solution.....
 
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There are only a small number of equations that we can happily solve and so our musings lead us there.
One of my professors was musing in class one day. "We see this - second order partial differential equations - everywhere, in all kinds of unrelated places. Does this tell us more about the world, or more about ourselves?"
 
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Mark44 said:
I'm not totally clear on what you're asking, but will assume that by "symmetry" you mean equations for physical quantities that are analogous to each other. If so, here are a couple that come to mind.
Linear force F and acceleration -- F = ma
Rotational torque and rotational acceleration ##\tau = I\alpha##
In these equations the pairs force (F) and torque (##\tau##), mass (m) and moment of inertia (I), and acceleration (a) and rotational acceleration (##\alpha##) are analogous.

Another example that is more complicated is how an LRC (inductor, resistor, capacitor) electrical circuit can be described by essentially the same second-order differential equation as a damped, spring and mass system. The equation for the electrical circuit, where the source voltage is constant is ##\ddot I(t) + \frac R l \dot I(t) + \frac 1 {LC} I(t) = 0##. Here I(t) is the current at time t, R is the resistance of the resistor, L is the inductance of the coil, and C is the capacitance of the coil.

The analogous equation for a damped, spring mass system is ##\ddot x(t) + \frac c m \dot x(t) + \frac k m x(t) = 0##.
Yeah that's the word, analagous!

Really nice example with torque. The examples with the electrical circuit also, so symmetrically satisfying and interesting.
 

FAQ: More examples of equations that unexpectedly model nature in similar ways

What are some examples of equations that model natural phenomena unexpectedly?

One example is the Navier-Stokes equation, which describes fluid dynamics but also appears in modeling traffic flow and crowd dynamics. Another example is the logistic equation, which models population growth but can also describe the spread of diseases and the diffusion of innovations. The Schrödinger equation, primarily used in quantum mechanics, has applications in various fields, including finance and biology, illustrating unexpected connections between physics and other domains.

How do these equations demonstrate universality in nature?

Universality in nature refers to the idea that different systems can exhibit similar behaviors under certain conditions, often described by the same mathematical frameworks. For example, the power laws governing critical phenomena in physics can also be found in social sciences, such as the distribution of wealth. This suggests that underlying principles may govern diverse systems, leading to similar equations modeling their behavior.

Why do seemingly unrelated fields use the same mathematical equations?

Different fields may use the same mathematical equations because they describe fundamental processes or interactions that are common across systems. For instance, the same differential equations can model the behavior of physical systems, biological populations, and even economic models. This convergence arises because many complex systems share structural similarities, allowing for the application of the same mathematical tools.

What role do approximations play in these equations?

Approximations are crucial in applying equations to model real-world phenomena, as they simplify complex systems into more manageable forms. For example, the ideal gas law is an approximation that works well under certain conditions but may fail at extremes. These approximations help scientists derive insights and predictions while acknowledging the limitations of the models in capturing every detail of the systems they represent.

Can these equations lead to new discoveries in science?

Yes, equations that model nature in unexpected ways can lead to new discoveries by revealing connections between different scientific disciplines. For instance, applying concepts from physics to biological systems has led to breakthroughs in understanding ecosystems and evolutionary dynamics. Such interdisciplinary approaches can inspire innovative research questions and methodologies, ultimately advancing our knowledge of complex systems.

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