Multiple Tanks Concept: Changing Water Level Difference

In summary: Gravitational forces keep water in balance.In summary,The height difference is what is the relevant driver. The ratio of tank areas comes into play as well for the transient behavior.
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Homework Statement
There are two interconnected tanks. Tank 1 having higher water level compare with Tank 2. The connecting pipe lowering the level to align the water level of two tanks and decrease the water level difference. Can you tell me why changing the connection pipe height can change the water level difference?
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I don't understand the problem, but I welcome you, @pranta ! :cool:

What do you think the answer could be, and why?
 
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I want to know the mechanism why water level difference may influence by changing connection pipe level
 
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Lnewqban said:
I don't understand the problem, but I welcome you, @pranta ! :cool:

What do you think the answer could be, and why?
yes both could be and why
 
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pranta said:
Homework Statement: There are two interconnected tanks. Tank 1 having higher water level compare with Tank 2. The connecting pipe lowering the level to align the water level of two tanks and decrease the water level difference. Can you tell me why changing the connection pipe height can change the water level difference?
Relevant Equations: N/A

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Can you provide a drawing? Because from how I understand it now the premise is false (the height of the connection pipe will not influence the ultimate height difference between the tanks, which will be zero unless one of the connection points 'runs dry'.
 
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Arjan82 said:
Can you provide a drawing? Because from how I understand it now the premise is false (the height of the connection pipe will not influence the ultimate height difference between the tanks, which will be zero unless one of the connection points 'runs dry'.
 

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here is the picture connection pipe in middle of two tanks. how does it influence the changes of delta H?
 
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pranta said:
here is the picture connection pipe in middle of two tanks. how does it influence the changes of delta H?
Its only has effect in the transient behavior.
 
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so, connection pipe level fluctuations doesn’t affect the water level difference?
 
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pranta said:
so, connection pipe level fluctuations doesn’t affect the water level difference?
Where you put the pipe and its size matter for the transient response i.e. how ##\delta h ## changes in time. There is going to be some decaying fluctuation curve that may have absolute differences ( but similar "shape" responses )
 
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sorry to mention one more information, 1st tank from left side of picture has less volume size than the 2nd tank in right side. does it a factor?
 
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pranta said:
sorry to mention one more information, 1st tank from left side of picture has less volume size than the 2nd tank in right side. does it a factor?
The height difference is what is the relevant driver. The ratio of tank areas comes into play as well for the transient behavior.
 
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Are you trying to determine ##\delta h (t)## given an initial state (a closed valve in the pipe)? Or are you just trying to figure out at what height the system tends to (the steady state response)?
 
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It seems that external water is coming into left tank and water is overflowing right tank?
 
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Lnewqban said:
It seems that external water is coming into left tank and water is overflowing right tank?
Thats a good point. What are those arrows indicating entering and exiting tank A and B. I may be jumping the gun on believing the OP is accurately describing "the actual system" given that diagram.
 
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pranta said:
Homework Statement: There are two interconnected tanks. Tank 1 having higher water level compare with Tank 2. The connecting pipe lowering the level to align the water level of two tanks and decrease the water level difference. Can you tell me why changing the connection pipe height can change the water level difference?
Try putting the connecting pipe just below the level of the water shown for the tank on the left.
 
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erobz said:
Are you trying to determine ##\delta h (t)## given an initial state (a closed valve in the pipe)? Or are you just trying to figure out at what height the system tends to (the steady state response)?
 
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phinds said:
Try putting the connecting pipe just below the level of the water shown for the tank on the left.
phinds said:
Try putting the connecting pipe just below the level of the water shown for the tank on the left.
do you think that the connection pipe level may affect the water level difference between two tanks?
 
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there is no valve between two tanks
 
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pranta said:
do you think that the connection pipe level may affect the water level difference between two tanks?
Clearly you did not understand what I said. Read it again.
 
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phinds said:
Clearly you did not understand what I said. Read it again.
i didn’t understand. can you explain a bit more
 
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pranta said:
there is no valve between two tanks
Then you aren't telling us the whole story. If there is no valve than this system is being maintained at these levels by an incoming flow on the left tank, and an outgoing flow in the right tank.
 
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erobz said:
Then you aren't telling us the whole story. If there is no valve than this system is being maintained at these levels by an incoming flow on the left tank, and an outgoing flow in the right tank.
right just by gravitational flow
 
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pranta said:
right just by gravitational flow
If the tanks are being maintained at the current levels what does that imply for the volumetric flowrate entering tank A and exiting tank B?
 
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erobz said:
If the tanks are being maintained at the current levels what does that imply for the volumetric flowrate entering tank A and exiting tank B?
inflow rate in tank A is higher than the outflow rate in tank B
 
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pranta said:
inflow rate in tank A is higher than the outflow rate in tank B
Is the volume of liquid in either tank changing over time?
 
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Your septic tank needs pumping out : way too much grease.
 
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Related to Multiple Tanks Concept: Changing Water Level Difference

What is the "Multiple Tanks Concept" in fluid dynamics?

The "Multiple Tanks Concept" in fluid dynamics refers to a system where several tanks are interconnected, and the water level in one tank can influence the water levels in the others. This concept is often used to study how changes in one part of the system affect the entire network, including flow rates and equilibrium states.

How does changing the water level in one tank affect the others?

Changing the water level in one tank affects the others through the principles of fluid pressure and flow. When the water level in one tank changes, it alters the pressure at the connection points between tanks, causing water to flow from higher pressure areas to lower pressure areas until equilibrium is reached. The specific impact on each tank depends on the system's configuration and the characteristics of the connecting pipes or channels.

What factors influence the rate of water flow between tanks?

The rate of water flow between tanks is influenced by several factors including the difference in water levels (pressure difference), the cross-sectional area and length of the connecting pipes, the viscosity of the fluid, and any resistance or friction within the pipes. These factors are often described using principles from fluid mechanics, such as Bernoulli's equation and the Hagen-Poiseuille equation.

Can the multiple tanks system reach a stable equilibrium?

Yes, a multiple tanks system can reach a stable equilibrium where the water levels in all tanks remain constant over time. This occurs when the inflow and outflow rates for each tank are balanced, meaning that the pressure differences driving the flow between tanks have been equalized. In a perfectly closed system with no external inputs or losses, this equilibrium will persist indefinitely.

How can the multiple tanks concept be applied in real-world scenarios?

The multiple tanks concept can be applied in various real-world scenarios such as water distribution networks, chemical processing plants, and environmental engineering projects. For example, in municipal water supply systems, understanding how water levels and pressures interact in interconnected reservoirs can help optimize the distribution of water to different areas. Similarly, in industrial processes, managing the levels of different tanks can be crucial for ensuring efficient and safe operations.

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