Newtons laws: Seem's simple but not for me

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving Newton's laws, specifically finding the position function r(t) given initial conditions and a force function F. Participants express confusion regarding the nature of the force F, which depends on position, velocity, and time. It is noted that there is no universal solution for all forms of F, and specific solutions exist for particular cases, such as constant forces or harmonic oscillators. The importance of knowing the exact form of F is emphasized for solving the problem effectively. Understanding the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration is crucial for progressing in this type of physics problem.
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Homework Statement


given initial coordinates, r(0), r'(0) and F(r,r',t)
find r(t)

Homework Equations


r''(t) = F(r(t), r'(t), t) / m


The Attempt at a Solution


have no idea where to start. some hint please, seem's pretty simple but not striking me.
 
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hi premsantosh! :smile:

what is F ? :confused:
 
Am sorry for not explaining the variables.
F = force
r is the position
r' is the velocity
r'' is the acceleration
t is the time
m is the mass

so essentially the first equation is: a = F/m
 
yes i know, but what function is F ? :confused:
 
I am not sure what your question is but I am assuming you are referring to F(r,r',t)
If its that then I am sorry that's what I do not understand too :P
Since it says F is dependent on the position, velocity at the current time t, I think we can maybe use some kind of equations to solve??
 
F could be any function of r r' and t …

you need to know what it is before you can solve it

where did you get this question from? :confused:
 
premsantosh said:
I am not sure what your question is but I am assuming you are referring to F(r,r',t)
If its that then I am sorry that's what I do not understand too :P
Since it says F is dependent on the position, velocity at the current time t, I think we can maybe use some kind of equations to solve??

There's no general solution for all F. There's lots of solutions for specific F. Most of them are when F is independent of t.

F = C. Solution r(t) = r(0) + r'(o)t + 1/2 (C/m) t^2
F = -kr(t). Solution r = A sin(B + Ct)

etc.
 
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