Noise Floor/Device Temperature Problem

In summary, the conversation is about finding the temperature of an LNA device using the noise power equation. The initial solution attempts to convert -100 dBm to dBW and then find the overall system noise temperature. There is a discussion about the temperature of the dish and whether it introduces noise, with one person suggesting that it is a metal sheet with negligible resistance. Another person confirms that the temperature mentioned is most likely the antenna noise temperature, not the physical temperature. The original solution is deemed to be correct, but the numbers have not been checked.
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ashah99
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Homework Statement
Please see an attachment below.
Relevant Equations
Pn= 10*log10(kTB)
dBm = dBW - 30 [dB]
Hi everyone, I would like to get some help with the following problem. I'm not sure if my answer is feasible. Thanks.

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My attempt at a solution:

I used the noise power equation: Pn= 10*log10(kTB) and converted the -100 dBm to dBW by subtracting 30 dB to get -130 dBW. Then I tried to find the overall system noise temperaure, T, and then I subtract the antenna temperature to find the temp of the LNA.

Pn= 10*log10(kTB) = Pn= 10*log10(k) + Pn= 10*log10(T) + Pn= 10*log10(B)
-130 dBW= 10*log10(1.38e-23 J/K) + 10*log10(T) + Pn= 10*log10(20e6 Hz)
10*log10(T) = -130 dBW - (-228.6 dB/J/K) - 73 dB/Hz = 25.6 dB/K
T = 10^(25.6/10) = 362.3 K
T_LNA = T - T_antenna = 262.3 K

This seems quite high for LNA device temperature. Could someone help to see if my work is right or if I'm totally off-track or misinterpreting the problem?
 
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Why should the temperature of the dish introduce noise? It is a metal sheet with negligible resistance.
 
  • #3
Actually 100K is very cold so I think they mean Antenna Noise Temperature, not physical temperature. I think your method is OK but have not checked the numbers.
 
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tech99 said:
Actually 100K is very cold so I think they mean Antenna Noise Temperature, not physical temperature. I think your method is OK but have not checked the numbers.
My assumption was antenna noise temp as well. Would you kind as to check if I’m on the right path?
 

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