Novice question about heat, ZPE and HUP

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The discussion centers on the relationship between heat, zero-point energy, and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. It clarifies that the uncertainty principle does not generate heat and that reaching absolute zero is theoretically impossible, although one can approach it asymptotically. A system at zero-point energy is not at absolute zero, as zero-point energy represents the residual energy due to quantum effects at absolute zero. In statistical quantum mechanics, a system can be prepared in a lowest energy pure quantum state, effectively achieving a temperature of zero. The conversation highlights the complexities of these quantum concepts and their implications for temperature and energy.
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Hi,

I was watching a pop-sci TV program on heat recently. Specifically, it was about trying to reach the lowest temperature possible. I was trying to recall something I learned about the uncertainty principle being a barrier to reaching absolute zero. When I searched on the internet I got some stuff back about zero point energies, but I could not work out how the concepts of heat, zero point energy and uncertainty fit together.

1) Does the uncertainty principle generate heat?

2) Is it theoretically possible to reach absolute zero?

3) Is a system at the zero point energy also at absolute zero?

Thanks
 
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jackle said:
Hi,

I was watching a pop-sci TV program on heat recently. Specifically, it was about trying to reach the lowest temperature possible. I was trying to recall something I learned about the HUP being a barrier to reaching absolute zero. When I searched on the internet I got some stuff back about zero point energies, but I could not work out how the concepts of heat, ZPE and uncertainty fit together.

1) Does the HUP generate heat?

2) Is it theoretically possible to reach absolute zero?

3) Is a system at the ZPE also at absolute zero?

Thanks

It would be helpful if you avoid using acronyms as much as possible, unless they are 100% commonly known (like USA). My guess is that you meant

HUP = Heisenberg uncertainty principle
ZPE = zero-point energy

Eugene.
 
You guessed right.

Sorry for being lazy, I have tried to put it right by editing the original post.
 
1) Not that I'm aware of.

2) No, but you can get asymptotically close.

3) ZPE is defined as the residual energy (potential + kinetic) due to quantum effects at 0 K. If it weren't for quantum effects- the system would have a lower potential energy (with a kinetic energy of zero). The difference between the system's actual energy and its hypothetical classical energy is the zero-point energy. i.e. the zero-point energy would be zero if the system were purely classical (hbar ->0).
 
jackle said:
2) Is it theoretically possible to reach absolute zero?

3) Is a system at the zero point energy also at absolute zero?

Thanks

In statistical quantum mechanics, a system is at temperature T if it is in a mixed state where all possible energy levels enter with their weights \exp(-E/kT). In principle, it is possible to prepare a macroscopic system (e.g., a piece of crystal) in a lowest energy pure quantum state. This would effectively mean that T=0. I think that superfluids or Bose-Einstein condensates also formally have T=0.

Eugene.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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