Number of elements in a ring with identity.

In summary, the conversation discusses a ring, denoted as R, with an identity element. It is stated that x^2 = 1_R for all non-zero elements x in R. The conversation then goes on to discuss the possible number of elements in R, with different theories being proposed. It is also mentioned that the ring R may be an integral domain, commutative, and possibly a field. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the potential values of x and the possible number of elements in R.
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AkilMAI
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1_R=identity in the ring R.
/=...not equal
Having some issues with this any help will be great:
Let R be a ring with identity, such that
x_2 = 1_R for all 0_R /= x ,where x belongs to R. How many elements are in R?
Thanks
 
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  • #2
James said:
1_R=identity in the ring R.
/=...not equal
Having some issues with this any help will be great:
Let R be a ring with identity, such that
x_2 = 1_R for all 0_R /= x ,where x belongs to R. How many elements are in R?
Thanks
I assume that x_2 = 1_R should read $x^2 = 1_R$.

Suppose that $x\ne0_R$. Start by looking at the element $x+1_R$. There are two possibilities: either $x+1_R = 0_R$ (in which case $x=-1_R$), or $x+1_R \ne 0_R$, in which case $(x+1_R)^2 = 1_R.$ See what you can deduce from that last equation.
 
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i conjecture |R| = 2 or 3. i will go further, it appears that U(R) = R- {0}, so we have a division ring. and by a theorem of wedderburn...
 
  • #4
Take $$ a\in R $$ s.t. $$ a\not= 0 $$ then $$ (a+1).a= ...$$ using distributivity and $$ a.(a+1)= ...$$ so from the uniqueness of the identity element in R ..
 
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there's a problem with your reasoning, hmmm16. we have no guarantee that (a+1)a = a+1 implies a = 1 because a+1 might be 0.

some things that are true:

R is an integral domain: suppose xy = 0 and x ≠ 0. then y = 1y = xxy = x0 = 0.

R is commutative: suppose x,y ≠ 0. then xy ≠ 0, so $(xy)^2 = 1 = x^2y^2$. that is:

xyxy = xxyy
xyxyy = xxyyy
xyx = xxy
xxyx = xxxy
yx = xy

R is a field: since $x^2 = 1$ for all x in R*, U(R) = R*, since $x^{-1} = x$ for x in R*.

R is finite: since R is a field, and since every element of R* is a root of the polynomial $x^2 - 1$, there can be at most 2 such roots.
 
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yeah but we just treat this case first and use the uniqueness of additive inverses right?
 
  • #7
that is, i believe, what Opalg was hinting at.
 
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Deveno said:
that is, i believe, what Opalg was hinting at.
if (x+1_r)^2=1_r =>x=-1/2...but x^2=1 so this is a contradiction...therefore x=-1=>|R|=2(because of the powers of x).Correct?
 
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no, you can't just write: "x = 1/2". for one thing, division isn't defined for arbitrary rings, only for fields. for another, in a general ring, "2" might not exist. in the field with just 2 elements F = {0,1}, also known as the integers mod 2, 2 DOES NOT EXIST. more generally, in boolean rings, A+A = 0, so you can't even have "2 of something".that is, you have no reason to suppose that the multiplicative inverse of x+x exists.

as a matter of fact, if R = the integers mod 3, we have:

(1)(1) = 1
(2)(2) = 4 = 1 (mod 3),

and it is easy to verify that in this case (1+1)^2 = 2^2 = 1, so there is no contradiction, and |R| = 3.
 

FAQ: Number of elements in a ring with identity.

What is the definition of a "ring with identity"?

A ring with identity is a mathematical structure that consists of a set of elements, along with two binary operations (usually addition and multiplication) that satisfy certain properties. The identity element is a special element in the ring that behaves like the number 1 in multiplication and 0 in addition.

How many elements are there in a ring with identity?

The number of elements in a ring with identity depends on the specific ring being considered. Generally, rings can have infinitely many elements, but some rings may have a finite number of elements. For example, the ring of integers has infinitely many elements, while the ring of 2x2 matrices has 4 elements.

What is the role of the identity element in a ring?

The identity element plays a crucial role in a ring. It is the element that, when combined with any other element in the ring, leaves that element unchanged. In other words, when an element is multiplied by the identity element, the result is the original element. This property is essential in defining the operations of addition and multiplication in a ring.

Can a ring have more than one identity element?

No, a ring can only have one identity element. This is a fundamental property of rings, and if a ring has more than one identity element, it is not considered a valid ring. In such cases, the structure is typically referred to as a "ring with multiple identities" or "ring with no identity."

How does the number of elements in a ring with identity affect its algebraic properties?

The number of elements in a ring with identity can greatly affect its algebraic properties. For example, a ring with a finite number of elements may have different properties than a ring with infinitely many elements. Additionally, the number of elements in a ring can determine the existence of certain properties, such as inverses for every element or a multiplicative identity.

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