Number Theory Problem (sums of consecutive squares)

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of the sum of consecutive squares being a square number. It is proven that this is not possible for m = 3, 4, 5, 6, and an example is given for m = 11. The conversation also suggests using modular arithmetic and provides a strategy for finding the value of n that satisfies the equation for m = 11.
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Homework Statement



The sum of two consecutive squares can be a square: for instance, 32 + 42 = 52

(a) Prove that the sum of m consecutive squares cannot be a square for
the cases m = 3; 4; 5; 6.
(b) Find an example of eleven consecutive squares whose sum is a square.

The Attempt at a Solution


The only thing i can think of using is the formula for the sum of square numbers e.g. for part one for the case where m = 3, it simplifies to
3n2 -6n + 5 = a2. I don't know how to prove this cannot be a square. (or e.g. in part b) -
(n)(n+1)(2n+1)/6 - (n-11)(n-10)(2n-21)/6 = a2 which simplifies to 11(n2 -10n + 385) = a2
This would suggest to me that a is divisible by 11, however I'm not sure how to generate a number such that it is equal to a square - I've thought of maybe trying to substitute a value for n which will allow me to factor the l.h.s. into a square, and then i'd be done, however I don't have a clue. Is this even the right direction to be going in? Or is there some easy way to solve this with modular arithmetic? Thanks in advance!
 
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This might help: The term in parenthesis must have a factor of 11. The 385 is already divisible by 11, so the n2-10n must be divisible by 11. The 385 divided by 11 is equal to 35. Therefore, n2-10n divided by 11, when added to 35 must be a perfect square. The factors of n2-10n are n and n-10. Therefore, n is either 11k, or 11k+10, where k is an integer. Find the value of k that works.
 
  • #3
For the case considering m = 3, you got 3n^2 -6n + 5 = a^2.

So now, all integers can be represented as 3k, 3k+1, or 3k+2. Try checking what remainders the squares of these general numbers give, when divided by 3, and apply the same idea to your equation too.

Also, a good idea of choosing the numbers would be (n-1), (n), (n+1) since its easier to calculate :)
 
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This refers to my post #2. The value of k that works is k=1, and n = 11. With n = 11, a = 6x11=66.
 
  • #5
I checked your algebra in obtaining the equation 11(n2 -10n + 385) = a2, and got a different result: (66n2-661n+2310)/6 = a2
 

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