Portlandia has struck again: fluoride in water

[Office_Shredder]

The Portland reservoirs need to be covered.

http://www.nwcn.com/news/Man-urinates-in-Portlands-Mt-Tabor-reservoir-flush-to-cost-33K-124007264.html

They're going to spend a hundred million dollars to avoid paying 30k every once in a while?

 

[OmCheeto]

The Portland reservoirs need to be covered.

http://www.nwcn.com/news/Man-urinates-in-Portlands-Mt-Tabor-reservoir-flush-to-cost-33K-124007264.html

No they don't.

More likely than not a tiny bit of urine in 8 million gallons of water isn’t going to hurt anybody. But in this one, I guess I’m responding in part to the yuck factor.

What's next?

Wanda Stinkerton, a Corvallisinian immigrant, has started a petition that would require the Water Bureau to cover the Bull Run Reservoir. In an interview, she stated that there are millions of birds that poop in the lake, and she didn't like the idea of drinking poopy water. When asked about all the fish poop, she responded that they would all need to be removed. And the frogs? "Them too!"

They're going to spend a hundred million dollars to avoid paying 30k every once in a while?

Hundred million...

Pfft!

East Side Combined Sewer Overflow (CSO) Project
...
Construction of the East Side “Big Pipe” alone is expected to cost Portland sewer ratepayers over $600 million, bringing the overall project cost to $1.4 billion. The City of Portland currently has the 2nd highest sewer rates in the nation and is expected to have the highest by the conclusion of the program.
...

Have I mentioned the poop tax?

No Fluoride in the water? And apparently Portland has no chlorine either.

mmm... Yes we do.

The water is chlorinated, but its chlorinated before the reservoirs so the water in the reservoirs is the water that you drink

i am glad Portland is there. It stuffs a lot of people in a small area. Sure glad that those people are not living in the nice parts of the state.

The feeling is mutual. This is why I support immigration control.

A portion of the Mount Tabor Reservoir had to be drained Wednesday morning when a 21-year-old Molalla man admitted to urinating in the water.

I think Molallainians should be forced to carry green cards, and wear big M's on their clothing when entering Portlandia.

Animals.

Like bears in he woods...

 

[nsaspook]

I think Molallainians should be forced to carry green cards, and wear big M's on their clothing when entering Portlandia.

Animals.

Like bears in he woods...

http://www.televisiontunes.com/Green_Acres.html

 

[DiracPool]

Portland people suck, I'm a Seattlite, Portland people think they are cool cause they smoke pot, don't shave their legs, are "anti-establishement", and a slew of other redicuouslessness

 

[OmCheeto]

They're going to spend a hundred million dollars to avoid paying 30k every once in a while?

Just in case anyone missed it, both the "East Side Sewer" and "Cover the Reservoirs" projects, were imposed upon us by the Federal Government.

I wonder if this is their way of attempting to turn us into Tea-Partiers?

 

[edward]

Quote by Leonard

The water is chlorinated, but its chlorinated before the reservoirs so the water in the reservoirs is the water that you drink

I really can't believe that anyone would do that. It would be less expensive to chlorinate the water at the point where it leaves the reservoirs than to cover them.

 

[edward]

Just in case anyone missed it, both the "East Side Sewer" and "Cover the Reservoirs" projects, were imposed upon us by the Federal Government.

I wonder if this is their way of attempting to turn us into Tea-Partiers?

The water supply for DC comes from the Potomac River. They have recently discovered that the male fish have eggs in their testes.

More than 80% of the male bass fish in Washington's major river are now exhibiting female traits such as egg production because of a "toxic stew" of pollutants, scientists and campaigners reported yesterday.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/21/toxic-stew-chemicals-fish-eggs

I wonder if they think covering their reservoirs will fix that problem?

BTW DC does add fluoride to the water.
http://www.dcwater.com/waterquality/faqs.cfm

 

[nsaspook]

Lets hope all the reservoirs are covered tonight.

World Naked Bike Ride Tomorrow Night - Portland Police Urge Riders to Wear Helmets and Shoes - 06/07/13
The World Naked Bike Ride is set to roll through the streets of Portland this Saturday, June 8, 2013, at 10:00 p.m., beginning in the South Park Blocks. Event organizers estimated the number of participants last year to be nearly 8,000 people.

The Portland Police Bureau will have extra officers on hand to ensure everyone is safe and to provide assistance at intersections.

Portland City Code 14A.40.030 (Indecent Exposure) states the following:

It is unlawful for any person to expose his or her genitalia while in a public place or place visible from a public place, if the public place is open or available to persons of the opposite sex.

Although many participants may violate Portland City Code, the Police Bureau will be exercising tremendous discretion as long as participants stay on the route with the rest of the riders.

The Portland Police Bureau recommends that at a bare minimum, all riders at least wear a helmet and shoes to avoid any potential injuries. Bike lights are also recommended.

This is a permitted event and traffic will be affected in several areas of Downtown, Kerns, West Buckman, Lloyd, Sullivan's Gulch, and the Laurelhurst neighborhoods.

 

[OmCheeto]

Lets hope all the reservoirs are covered tonight.

That reminds me.

If anyone should come visit, the water is fine.

But please, wear gloves, if you have to touch the locals.

​

Taken outside my bar last summer.
Someone walked in and said; "There's some guy dancing naked in the street".
Everyone smiled politely, and nodded.
10 minutes later, someone came in and said; "There's some guy dancing naked in the street".
We did a collective; "Ok, I guess we have to look."

I once saw a lady, in what I would call a "dominatrix" type of outfit walk by. Not too weird. But she was on a leash. On the end of the leash was a, pardon my political incorrectness for not knowing the current correct term, midget in a wheelchair.

Later, I thought to myself; "I didn't do a double-take."

I decided that my city is so bizarre, that she would have had to have been a giraffe on roller-skates in the outfit, and the gentleman would have had to have been a dwarf walrus in a wheelchair, before I thought something was out of the ordinary.

 

[edward]

And to stay on topic scroll down to number 25.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-30-most-portland-things-that-have-ever-happened-in-portl

 

[lisab]

And to stay on topic scroll down to number 25.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-30-most-portland-things-that-have-ever-happened-in-portl

OMG but don't skip the other 29 !

 

[OmCheeto]

OMG but don't skip the other 29 !

I like the missing chicken posters.

Sorry to get back on topic, but I had lunch in a real restaurant yesterday and picked up the local paper, and there was a post election interview with the head of the group opposed to fluoridation. She didn't come across as a kook.

For the strategist behind fluoride’s defeat, the fight isn’t over.
...
In many ways, the vote had been the fight Kaminski—47, and who has a law degree, focused on environmental issues, from Arizona State University—had been waiting for. She has made opposing fluoridation a yearslong fight as executive director of Oregon Citizens for Safe Drinking Water.

In this interview, Kaminski talks about where the fight goes from here, how her campaign didn’t juke the science, and how Carl Sagan is linked to the defeat of fluoride in Portland.
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Ha! She blamed it on Carl Sagan. I think I like her. I wonder where she's from.

Where are you from originally?

I grew up in Illinois. State-mandated fluoridation. I had 12 cavities. They were all filled with mercury amalgams.

oooo... An auslander... But I like her. She can stay. Unlike the Mollalaninians. They need to stay home.

I read another article that said that every major newspaper in the state supported the fluoride initiative, including the one listed above.

And this just in, from our Keep Portland Weird Facebook Page:

I would post what I've just read about a 64 year old man being arrested, jailed, and fined, for collecting rainwater, ...

Oh what the hell... People need to be aware of these...

Keep Portland Weird
4 June
Does it seem like your water bill keeps going up? Are you thinking about collecting rain water, read below first.

In the latest abuse of power, a man in Oregon has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and ordered to pay a $1,500 fine for collecting rainwater on his own land. Gary Harrington was convicted of nine misdemeanor crimes for filling his three man-made reservoirs with rainwater and snow runoff. The state of Oregon claims the water that fell from the sky, is owned by them and the Medford Water Commission.

As unreal as it may sound, at least 9 states have made it illegal to collect rainwater on your own land. Utah, Oregon, Colorado and a number of other states have passed rainwater laws that either limit or all out ban the collection of rainwater. Apparently, it’s alright for mega corporations to take it, bottle it and then sell it to the public for profit; but if you should try to collect any for yourself – You might need a lawyer!

You will pay for fluoride, and you will drink it.
You will not collect the rainwater, as it is ours.
And then you will pay for fluoride, and you will drink our water.

...WATER NAZI'S​

We need to organize! Occupy the Reservoirs!

Wait! What's this...

"Occupy Mount Tabor" Begins Today
UPDATE: "Occupy Mount Tabor" no longer begins today

Another update!

UPDATE, 1:03 pm: Less than two hours after WW reported the event, the Occupy Portland calendar corrected the date of the "Occupy Mount Tabor" camping protest to Friday, July 12.

Drats! I'll be down in Eugene that weekend with the hippies. Oh well, at least the hippies know how to juggle. During the Occupy Portland thingy, I handed a juggler a $20 bill and told her to take lessons. She was terrible.

 

[edward]

Posted by OmCheto Keep Portland Weird
4 June
Does it seem like your water bill keeps going up? Are you thinking about collecting rain water, read below first.

In the latest abuse of power, a man in Oregon has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and ordered to pay a $1,500 fine for collecting rainwater on his own land. Gary Harrington was convicted of nine misdemeanor crimes for filling his three man-made reservoirs with rainwater and snow runoff. The state of Oregon claims the water that fell from the sky, is owned by them and the Medford Water Commission.

As unreal as it may sound, at least 9 states have made it illegal to collect rainwater on your own land. Utah, Oregon, Colorado and a number of other states have passed rainwater laws that either limit or all out ban the collection of rainwater. Apparently, it’s alright for mega corporations to take it, bottle it and then sell it to the public for profit; but if you should try to collect any for yourself – You might need a lawyer!

For gods sake those states must have a lot of water to spare. Tucson has started urging people to harvest rainwater. They will even pay $50 to people who reroute the water from their washing machines to their plants.

We do have a poop tax though. Mine is $60 per month.

The chlorinated sewage effluent minus the poop is then sold to golf courses to water the grass.
I have a feeling that they should be paying me for my contribution to the sport of golf.

I can see that the next thing coming will be a flush counter on toilets.

 

[OmCheeto]

For gods sake those states must have a lot of water to spare.

Our big river could submerge all 230 miles² of Tucson under 1300 feet of water in a year. That's why I ran the numbers the other day to provide you with 2 feet of water per year. Yes, we have water to spare.

Fairly clean too. I've been swimming in it for at least 45 years and have never had a problem. And the fish don't have cavities for some reason.

I was down in New Orleans in June about 10 years ago for a wedding. You can imagine how hot it was. I saw zero people in the Mississippi. If I were you, I'd ixnay the idea of diverting it over to your area.

Tucson has started urging people to harvest rainwater. They will even pay $50 to people who reroute the water from their washing machines to their plants.

My mother used to do that. She had the greenest lawn in the world.

We do have a poop tax though. Mine is $60 per month.

The chlorinated sewage effluent minus the poop is then sold to golf courses to water the grass.
I have a feeling that they should be paying me for my contribution to the sport of golf.

I can see that the next thing coming will be a flush counter on toilets.

Many years ago I ran the numbers and discovered that my roof would collect exactly the same amount of water I use over the course of a year. Unfortunately, it's comes down unevenly, so I determined that I'd need about 100 x 55 gallon barrels as a buffer. I don't really have room for that many barrels, so I ixnayed the idea.

But our poop tax is based on our winter water usage, which is when it rains the most, so I'll have to recalculate the number of barrels I would need to minimize my winter water usage. According to the law, I can't drink it, but I could use it to wash my clothes and my car, and flush the toilet. Ah ha! Take that water nazi's!

I have a friend on the other side of town, and his grandfather had a well on his property. The city was always coming over and snooping because he didn't use enough water. (He was up to something!) But he would invite them in, flush the toilet, and go out to the water meter, and show them that it moved.

The toilet was the only thing hooked to the city water mains.

Smart old dude.

 

[edward]

Our big river could submerge all 230 miles² of Tucson under 1300 feet of water in a year. That's why I ran the numbers the other day to provide you with 2 feet of water per year. Yes, we have water to spare.

Fairly clean too. I've been swimming in it for at least 45 years and have never had a problem. And the fish don't have cavities for some reason.

I was down in New Orleans in June about 10 years ago for a wedding. You can imagine how hot it was. I saw zero people in the Mississippi. If I were you, I'd ixnay the idea of diverting it over to your area.

My mother used to do that. She had the greenest lawn in the world.

Many years ago I ran the numbers and discovered that my roof would collect exactly the same amount of water I use over the course of a year. Unfortunately, it's comes down unevenly, so I determined that I'd need about 100 x 55 gallon barrels as a buffer. I don't really have room for that many barrels, so I ixnayed the idea.

But our poop tax is based on our winter water usage, which is when it rains the most, so I'll have to recalculate the number of barrels I would need to minimize my winter water usage. According to the law, I can't drink it, but I could use it to wash my clothes and my car, and flush the toilet. Ah ha! Take that water nazi's!

I have a friend on the other side of town, and his grandfather had a well on his property. The city was always coming over and snooping because he didn't use enough water. (He was up to something!) But he would invite them in, flush the toilet, and go out to the water meter, and show them that it moved.

The toilet was the only thing hooked to the city water mains.

Smart old dude.

There are accusations going around that claim Tucson is being Portland-ized. It all began when the people voted to build a street car line. The track is almost finished but the trolleys are still under construction somewhere in [edit] Oregon.

It would have been best to see if there were trolley cars actually available.

Here’s an issue Imagine Greater Tucson will never ask about: How satisfied are you with the Portland-ization of Tucson? Are you tired of Portland, Ore., being idolized as the city that Tucson aspires to become?

The ideology connection is pretty clear: both cities are islands of liberalism in otherwise fairly conservative states.

Many of Portland’s traits infatuate Tucson’s bureaucrat copycats. To start with the obvious, Portland has a modern streetcar system that serves downtown.

http://www.insidetucsonbusiness.com...cle_226f4b4a-79ea-11e1-a652-0019bb2963f4.html

The rant about Portland goes on and on.

 

[nsaspook]

The rant about Portland goes on and on.

Well Portland is not boring, Boring is a few miles east.

http://www.theworld.org/2012/04/a-tale-of-dull-and-boring-sister-cities/

 

[OmCheeto]

Well Portland is not boring, Boring is a few miles east.

http://www.theworld.org/2012/04/a-tale-of-dull-and-boring-sister-cities/

Ummm... I'm a few miles to the east of Portland...

I guess, I'll just shut up then...

 

[nsaspook]

Somethings in the water, a whole lot of fish.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2013/09/fall_chinook_salmon_run_on_col.html
http://www.kgw.com/news/Chinook-salmon-reach-record-numbers-in-Columbia-River-224159881.html

It's time for some river fishing.

 

[nsaspook]

Now something else is in the water.
http://www.kptv.com/story/24413235/caught-on-camera-suspect-jumps-off-bridge-after-high-speed-police-chase

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Well Portland is not boring, Boring is a few miles east.

http://www.theworld.org/2012/04/a-tale-of-dull-and-boring-sister-cities/

Boring is so boring that they made a cartoon about it - Gravity Falls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring,_Oregon

 

[OmCheeto]

Now something else is in the water.
http://www.kptv.com/story/24413235/caught-on-camera-suspect-jumps-off-bridge-after-high-speed-police-chase

I wonder if she was wearing Nike tennis shoes.

Portland woman sues Nike for $10 million for lack of warning label stating that wearing the shoes may not prevent you from jumping off bridges

Portland pimp sues Nike for $100 million for lack of warning label after beating victim with Jordans

In his three-page complaint handwritten from the Eastern Oregon Correctional Institution in Pendleton, Clardy claims that Nike, Chairman Phil Knight and other executives failed to warn consumers that the shoes could be used as a weapon to cause serious injury or death.

"Under product liability there is a certain standard of care that is required to be up-held by potentially dangerous product ..." wrote Clardy, who is representing himself. "Do (sic) to the fact that these defendants named in this Tort claim failed to warn of risk or to provide an adequate warning or instruction it has caused personal injury in the likes of mental suffering."
Clardy wrote that he's tried to starve himself and kill himself multiple times.

He asks a Multnomah County judge to order Nike to affix warning labels to all their "potentially dangerous Nike and Jordan merchandise."

...

A psychologist declared him an anti-social psychopath who was 100 percent likely to commit violent crimes again. ...

In the coming days, the suit will be served to Nike, which will then have an opportunity to respond.

Sirgiorgio is currently serving a 100 year sentence.

 

[nsaspook]

I wonder if she was wearing Nike tennis shoes.





Sirgiorgio is currently serving a 100 year sentence.

It's a dangerous foot world.

 

[Naty1]

If fluoride were so completely safe, my vet would recommend it for my dogs.

They do NOT recommend it because dogs swallow it.

Good for teeth, ok; longterm bad for what else...nobody really knows.

 

[lisab]

If fluoride were so completely safe, my vet would recommend it for my dogs.

They do NOT recommend it because dogs swallow it.

Good for teeth, ok; longterm bad for what else...nobody really knows.

Actually a quick search reveals that quite a lot is known.

http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety/systematic.htm

 

[Naty1]

Actually a quick search reveals that quite a lot is known.

Actually quite a lot is CLAIMED.

Christie Todd Whitman when heading the EPA also told NYC first responders at the World Trade Center

'All is well amid all the dust and debris"...

thousands now know the truth, but too late.

And West Virginia is telling many residents right now "ok to drink tap water again' despite independent lab results to the contrary.

On balance, not being blessed with perfect teeth, I think fluoride IS beneficial.

 

[lisab]

Actually quite a lot is CLAIMED.

Christie Todd Whitman when heading the EPA also told NYC first responders at the World Trade Center

'All is well amid all the dust and debris"...

thousands now know the truth, but too late.

And West Virginia is telling many residents right now "ok to drink tap water again' despite independent lab results to the contrary.

On balance, not being blessed with perfect teeth, I think fluoride IS beneficial.

Ah, but we're a *science* forum. I expect most PFers will use critical thinking and vet their information sources when researching a "hot" topic such as water fluoridation, and not just blindly follow what is "claimed".

Btw, the CDC does not make a habit of simply "claiming" things. If you think it does, you will need to back up what you say - otherwise, I stand by the link in my last post.

 

[OmCheeto]

hmmm...

Toothpaste overdose
...
Outlook (Prognosis)
Patients who swallow a very large amount of fluoride toothpaste and survive 48 hours usually recover. See also: Fluoride overdose

So if you don't survive those 48 hours, you may not recover?

hmmm...

Fluoride overdose
...
Fluoride may also be found in other household items, including

Etching cream
Roach powders

Just what I want in my water. Stuff that etches glass, and cockroach poison.

We'll just keep voting it down. I would like to thank all of you all who are concerned about my teeth, but I'd rather the government kept out of my [STRIKE]uterus[/STRIKE] drinking water.


ps. Floss daily, brush at least twice a day, and do not swallow the toothpaste.

 

[nsaspook]

First it's fluoride in the water next it's a 'Trader Joe's' in a neighborhood.

http://news.yahoo.com/trader-joe-39-drops-black-neighborhood-store-plan-224732374.html

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The Trader Joe's grocery-store chain has dropped a plan to open a new store in the heart of the city's historically African-American neighborhood after activists said the development would price black residents out of the area.
...
It sent the city a letter saying it would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the Black community." It said the grocery-store development would "increase the desirability of the neighborhood," for "non-oppressed populations."

 

[nsaspook]

Portland water in the news again.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014...rstechnica/index+(Ars+Technica+-+All+content)

The city of Portland, OR will empty a 38-million gallon reservoir after a teenager allegedly urinated in it, according to the Associated Press. It's the second time in three years that Portland is flushing its Mount Tabor reservoir after a urine-related incident.

The reservoir is open-air and sits exposed to all of nature, leading many parties to question how necessary a draining would be, or how polluted 38 million gallons of water can really be by a single man's urine.

 

[lisab]

Portland water in the news again.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014...rstechnica/index+(Ars+Technica+-+All+content)

Wow. And birds never poop in that reservoir?

This is a funny take on it -

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...r_how_dangerous_is_pee_in_drinking_water.html

 

[OmCheeto]

Portland water in the news again.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014...rstechnica/index+(Ars+Technica+-+All+content)

I kind of laughed at the whole thing, knowing how to google, and finding out a few facts, over the last two days:

Excellent!
Opinion #1: Everyone living in Portland, who thinks this is stupid, should move to Texas.
Fact #1: Portlanders use almost twice that amount of water, DAILY!.
Fact #2: The Bull Run river is right now discharging over twice that amount each day.
Fact #3: The Bull Run reservoir, has a capacity of 10 billion useable gallons, or 263 times what we dumped out.
Fact #4: They drain the city reservoirs twice a year to make sure there are no dead cows at the bottom. ... Ok. I made up the part about the dead cows.

Fact #5: The Bull Run watershed, the source of all Portland's drinking water, collects 240 billion gallons of water a year.
Fact #6: Portlanders only consume 20 billion gallons of water per year.
Fact #7: We dump 220 billion gallons of excess water into our river, because we have too much.
Fact #8: Portland dumps 6000 times more water into our river than was flushed from the reservoir.
Fact #9: I like math, and science, and Portland.
Opinion #2: Ya all can stay out of our stoopid city.

ps. Some of my numbers may appear a bit off, as the USGS sight had the effluent at only 133 cfs vs the mean of 744 cfs for this time of year. They may be filling the bowl, for a power flush.

 

[OmCheeto]

That reminds me.

If anyone should come visit, the water is fine.
...

Ok, maybe not today.

Over a half million people in Oregon's largest city told to boil tap water after city finds bacteria in reservoirs

I've lived here for a tad over 55 years, and have never been told to boil my water before.

I first heard the news today, while standing in line at work, waiting for my stir fry. A maintenance man, had just placed a "Do not drink the pop!" sign on one of the two soda dispensers. There seemed to be some confusion, as he hadn't put a sign on the second dispenser, and people were filling up cups, and getting ice, only to have a cafeteria staff person tell them they had to dump it out. One of the chefs had to explain to the maintenance man, that both machines used city water, to make soda pop. They eventually got the second sign up, and I eventually got my stir fry.

When I got to the checkout line, I was greeted by my new Ethiopian friend. She had the biggest smile I had ever seen on her face, and I could tell she was holding back laughter. She told me, something to the effect, that they never boiled their water, even though it was probably 100 times worse than what was coming out of our faucets today. I smiled back, and mentioned something about "1st world problems", with a universally understood, roll of the eyes.

ps. My sister from flame shredded San Marcos flew in on Tuesday, and called me a few hour before I got off work today, to see if I wanted to party. She apparently hadn't paid attention, and thought I was retiring today. Um... No.

While she was waiting, she bought 3 flats of bottled water, as she is staying at my brothers house on the other side of town, and thought they might need it. Unfortunately, my brother lives outside the "tainted water" area, and his water is fine.

In conclusion, I got a free flat of bottled water.

Yay! I can brush my teeth in the morning.

pps. The following still applies though:

...please, wear gloves, if you have to touch the locals.

 

[russ_watters]

What the frick is a "flat of bottled water"? Do Portlandians think they are British, but don't actually know what a "flat" is?

Anyway, I'm sure there is some poetic justice somewhere in that story -- I can't seem to find it right now, but I'm choosing to enjoy it anyway.

 

[nsaspook]

My waters from a well so no problems here. I wonder that kind of critter they find when they drain Mt. Tabor again. I expect it be be extra busy at the bars tonight with people needing liquid refreshment.

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/30/15/53/6347488/3/628x471.jpg

 

[OmCheeto]

What the frick is a "flat of bottled water"? Do Portlandians think they are British, but don't actually know what a "flat" is?

It's quite possible that I used the wrong term, though the "flat" holding the bottled water looks suspiciously like the "flat"s we used to harvest berrys with.

How to pick strawberries

...strawberry flat (that's a shallow waxed cardboard box)

Anyway, I'm sure there is some poetic justice somewhere in that story -- I can't seem to find it right now, but I'm choosing to enjoy it anyway.

Karmic justice, more like.

Om: We've got the best water in the world!
Karma comes along and poops in his reservoir.
Om: Oh ****!

ps. My sister and I met at the Old Spaghetti Factory after I got off work. The waiter apologized that he couldn't serve us any water. I mentioned that I was a fan of W.C. Fields, and didn't drink water, so it was no big deal.

pps. On a semi-sciency side-note, I just checked the USGS site, and it appears they're holding back the water in the source reservoir again. I also noticed that the maximum overflow was back on Dec. 22, 1964. If the flow had kept up all day at that rate, it would have been equivalent to ~16 billion gallons, only 4 billion gallons short of our current annual usage. I thought that was interesting.

ppps. On a super-cool totally-sciency side-note: Last night I put the water bottles in my freezer. A few moments ago, I went to check on them. Half of the bottles were frozen, and half of the bottles were not. I picked one of the bottles up, thinking the freezer was defective, and the following happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qD2Bzkb48​

I'm pretty sure I've seen this before on YouTube, but had never seen it in real life. (I don't buy bottled water).

Freakin' awesome!