Problem with Newton's second law

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a boy and a platform, where the boy's mass is 40kg and the platform's mass is 15kg. The force exerted by the board on the boy is given as 180N, and participants are working to determine the boy's acceleration and the scale reading. The equations of motion are established using Newton's second law, with tension and gravitational forces considered. There is a consensus that the approach to solving the simultaneous equations is correct, and participants confirm the validity of the calculations presented. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding forces and accelerations in a system involving multiple masses.
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Homework Statement



In the following figure, the boy has a mass of 40kg, and the platform he is sitting on has a mass of 15kg. If the force of the board on the boy is 180N;

a) Find the acceleration of the boy

b) Find the reading of the scale.

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jarmand/131/131chall5s12_files/image002.gif

Homework Equations



F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I have the acceleration kind of worked out with ƩFy = 2T - mg = may where m is the total mass of the system (platform + boy) and T is the tension in the rope. Would the force of the tension be the same as the reading on the scale?

Mostly I've been unsure how to use that 180N. Then I started thinking that the downward force that the boy exerts on the chair has the same magnitude as the upward normal force that the chair exerts on the boy, giving ƩFy = T + Fn - mboyg = mboyay
Two equations with two unknowns T and a:
2T -55(9.8) = 55a
T + 180 - 40(9.8) = 40a
?
 
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That all looks correct. Do you not know how to solve simultaneous equations? Just get one of the equations in the form T = (some function of other variables) and use this to substitute for T in the other equation.
 
Oh I know how to solve simultaneous equations; I just wanted to see if my work seemed alright :smile:
Thanks!

If no one else chimes in, I'll take it that they agree
 
Bohrok said:

Homework Statement



In the following figure, the boy has a mass of 40kg, and the platform he is sitting on has a mass of 15kg. If the force of the board on the boy is 180N;

a) Find the acceleration of the boy

b) Find the reading of the scale.

[ IMG]http://www.csupomona.edu/~jarmand/131/131chall5s12_files/image002.gif

Homework Equations



F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I have the acceleration kind of worked out with ƩFy = 2T - mg = may where m is the total mass of the system (platform + boy) and T is the tension in the rope. Would the force of the tension be the same as the reading on the scale?

Mostly I've been unsure how to use that 180N. Then I started thinking that the downward force that the boy exerts on the chair has the same magnitude as the upward normal force that the chair exerts on the boy, giving ƩFy = T + Fn - mboyg = mboyay
Two equations with two unknowns T and a:
2T -55(9.8) = 55a
T + 180 - 40(9.8) = 40a
?
Yes. That all looks fine to me. I got the same thing without first looking at your solution.
 
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