Proof: Sup of V < 0 on Compact Set in Rn

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In summary, the conversation discusses the statement that a differentiable function V from Rn to R with V<0 over a compact set also has sup(V)<0 in that set. There is uncertainty about the interpretation of the statement and consideration is given to the possibility of the image of the compact set being (-1,0). Additionally, it is mentioned that the function is bounded and attains its bounds, leading to the conclusion that there is an element in the set with V(x)=sup{V(y)}, which is negative according to the hypothesis.
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I don't have background in analysis, but was looking for
a simple explanation(proof?) of this statement,

Over a compact set, a differentiable function V Rn-> R, with V<0 in that set, then sup(V)<0 in that set


Actually I'm not certain if I interpreted the statement right, so maybe the statement as it is might be wrong/incomplete.
 
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You mean
[tex]f:\Re^n\rightarrow \Re[/tex]
and [tex]f(v) < 0[/tex]
?

Consider the possibility that the image of the compact set [tex]S[/tex] might be [tex](-1,0)[/tex] which certainly has sup [tex]0[/tex].
 
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The image of a compact set under a continuous (diffble) map is compact.
So considering (0,1) as the image won't get you very far. Moreover it is bounded and attains its bounds, hence there is some element in the set with V(x)=sup{V(y)}

this is negative by hypothesis
 

FAQ: Proof: Sup of V < 0 on Compact Set in Rn

What is the definition of "Sup of V" in this context?

The "Sup of V" refers to the supremum (or least upper bound) of a set of values, in this case, the set V. In other words, it is the smallest value that is greater than or equal to all the elements in V.

What does it mean for the Sup of V to be less than 0?

If the Sup of V is less than 0, it means that all the elements in V are also less than 0. In other words, the set V is bounded above by 0.

What is the significance of V being compact in this statement?

A compact set is a set that is both closed and bounded. In this context, it means that V has a finite range of values and does not have any "gaps" in its values. This allows for the existence of a finite supremum, which is necessary for the statement to hold.

How does this statement relate to the properties of Rn?

The statement "Sup of V < 0 on Compact Set in Rn" is specific to the properties of Rn, as it refers to a set of values in n-dimensional space. The compactness of V is important in ensuring the existence of a finite supremum in Rn.

What are the implications of this statement in scientific research?

This statement is commonly used in mathematical proofs and has implications in various fields of science, including physics, engineering, and economics. It helps to establish bounds and limitations on variables and provides a basis for further analysis and experimentation.

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