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Fra said:No, you missed a fine detail of my point. I think Vanhees did too.
There is no bell style HV, yes. I am with all this.
Which is a very specific HV with additional assumptions on how the average action is formed, which i think is the problem.
To Fra: Do you have an opinion on A. Neumaier's approach? It comes perhaps a bit more from the mathematical/logical/"statistical" side than your and Lee Smolin's more physical approach, but it also tries to overcome the limitations of a pure instrumental approach, and has a commitment to a single world. I know, it may seem strange that it seems to leave QT nearly unmodified, and still claims to have ("non-separable") HV hidden in plain sight, but ... What is your opinion? At least those are non-Bell style HV!martinbn said:I am not saying that it is 100% certain that there are no HV, only that so far all we know points in that direction. What makes you think that there could be HV (non Bell type of course)?