Question about friction? Dynamics

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The discussion centers on understanding the direction of the frictional force acting on a car on a ramp. It highlights that friction opposes the tendency to slip down the ramp, which can lead to confusion about its direction. When the car moves too fast, friction acts down the ramp to maintain circular motion, while slower speeds require friction to act up the ramp. The importance of drawing a free body diagram (FBD) is emphasized to analyze the forces at play. Overall, the conversation clarifies the role of friction in maintaining stability on inclined surfaces.
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Homework Statement


This is the problem
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2. Homework Equations

This is the given FBD
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3. The Attempt at a Solution

Now the car should have a tendency to slip down the ramp thus causing the frictional force to oppose this motion. But the frictional force is pointed down the ramp in this worked out problem. Can someone explain to me why this is?
 
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Why is friction pointed down the ramp? Shouldnt it be pointed up the ramp?
 
If there were no ramp (i.e. the ground was flat) and the car was going around a curve, what direction would the friction force have to point?
 
Ricardeo Xavier said:
Why is friction pointed down the ramp? Shouldnt it be pointed up the ramp?
Note that they ask for minimum and maximum speeds. What happens when you take the curve too fast? Which direction do you tend to slip?
 
Ricardeo Xavier said:
Why is friction pointed down the ramp? Shouldnt it be pointed up the ramp?
Follow the sequence of the questions asked by the problem.
First draw the FBD to determine how fast the car must be moving if there were no friction, i.e. sliding around a frictionless curve.
If the car is moving faster than that, friction down the incline is needed to keep it in a horizontal circle.
If the car is moving slower than that, friction up the incline is needed to keep it in a horizontal circle.
 
Thanks everyone for the great responses! It really helped clarify things for me (:
 
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