Question about the relative motion of an eye relative to light source

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Hello everyone,

I've been thinking about 2nd postulate of relativity, it seems that and the Michaelson-Morley experiment seems to imply that there is no ether, but I was thinking about a special situation that doesn't seem to go against that postulate.

I think my question is basic so hopefully it makes sense and I don't make any major blunders.

Suppose there is an initial light source at distance D away from an eye and the light turns on at the start of the problem, and the eye moves with a relative velocity of v towards the light source, how long does it take light to reach the eye?

I was thinking about it and the gap seems to be closing at a rate of ##c + v## So I would expect the light to reach the eye at the time ##\frac {D} {c + v}##

If the eye is moving away from the light source at the start of the problem when it turns on at a distance D I would imagine the gap to be closing at a rate of ##{c - v}## so the time to cover the distance D should be ##\frac {D} {c - v}##

Hopefully I'm not making any major mistakes in my analysis, let me know what you think.

Thanks.
 
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In the rest frame of the light source where the eye is moving, yes, these are the expressions. It is unclear why you think this affects the results predicted by relativity.
 
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Orodruin said:
In the rest frame of the light source where the eye is moving, yes, these are the expressions. It is unclear why you think this affects the results predicted by relativity.
I don't think it affects the results predicted by relativity, I'm just trying to make sure I'm not making any mistakes regarding the postulates of relativity and the framework of it.
 
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Chenkel said:
I don't think it affects the results predicted by relativity, I'm just trying to make sure I'm not making any mistakes regarding the postulates of relativity and the framework of it.
You have specified everything in one frame here, so the same intercept calculations you do in Newtonian physics apply. It's only when you want to do more complex physics (conservation laws or frame changes, for example) that you will find differences.
 
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How does the relative motion of an eye with respect to a light source affect the perception of light?

The relative motion of an eye with respect to a light source can affect the perception of light through the Doppler effect, which changes the frequency and wavelength of light. If the eye is moving towards the light source, the light waves are compressed, resulting in a blue shift (higher frequency). If the eye is moving away from the light source, the light waves are stretched, resulting in a red shift (lower frequency).

What is the Doppler effect in the context of light and how does it relate to the relative motion of an observer?

The Doppler effect in the context of light refers to the change in frequency (and consequently wavelength) of light due to the relative motion between the light source and the observer. When the observer moves towards the light source, the light waves are compressed, leading to a blue shift. Conversely, when the observer moves away from the light source, the light waves are stretched, leading to a red shift.

Can the human eye detect the Doppler shift in visible light due to relative motion?

The human eye is generally not sensitive enough to detect the Doppler shift in visible light due to relative motion under normal circumstances. The shifts in frequency are typically too small to be noticeable without precise instruments. However, significant relative velocities, such as those encountered in astronomical observations, can produce measurable Doppler shifts that can be detected with specialized equipment.

How does the speed of the observer relative to the speed of light affect the observed color of the light source?

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