Question on deriving Bessel's equation

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In summary, the conversation discusses Bessel's equation of order p and the choice of constants in the equation's solution. The book suggests setting certain constants to zero, but the speaker questions the reasoning behind this choice and asks if it is necessary to follow the book's suggestion. The expert explains that the choice of constants corresponds to shifting the definitions of certain variables in order to simplify the solution, and that any constant can be chosen as long as it satisfies the equation.
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[tex]\hbox { Bessel's equation of order p: }\;x^2y''+xy'+(x^2-p^2)y=0\;\hbox { and let}\;y=\sum_0^{\infty}C_nx^{n+r}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow\; \left[\sum_0^{\infty}C_k(k+r)(k+r-1)x^k+\sum_0^{\infty}C_k(k+r)x^k+\sum_2^{\infty} C_{k-2}x^k-p^2\sum_0^{\infty}C_kx^k\right]x^r\;=\;0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow\; x^r\left[(r^2-p^2)C_0+[(r+1)^2-p^2]C_1 x+\sum_2^{\infty}\left([(k+r)(k+r)-p^2]C_k+C_{k-2}\right)x^k\right]\;=\;0[/tex]

According to the book, all the terms have to be zero for the equation to be zero.
[tex](r^2-p^2)C_0=0\;\Rightarrow r=^+_-p[/tex]
The book also say
[tex][(r+1)^2-p^2]C_1=0\;\Rightarrow C_1=0\;\hbox { because from above, }\;r=^+_-p[/tex]


My problem with this assumption ##C_1=0## is I can just as easy say ##(r+1)^2-p^2=0## and claim ##C_0=0##! This will change the whole equation of the Bessel's equation!

Why do I have to follow the book to let ##C_1=0## which result in all ##C_{2n+1}=0##? Is it just because it is simpler and more convenient this way?

Also, the book just said let ##C_0=\frac {1}{2^p\Gamma(1+p)}## without explaining why. Why?

I know it is for fitting the formula of:

[tex]J_p=\sum_0^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^k}{k! \Gamma(k+p+1)}\left(\frac {x}{2}\right)^{2k+p} [/tex]

But can you just let ##C_0## to be anything?

Thanks
 
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[tex]\hbox { Bessel's equation of order p: }\;x^2y''+xy'+(x^2-p^2)y=0\;\hbox { and let}\;y=\sum_0^{\infty}C_nx^{n+r}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow\; \left[\sum_0^{\infty}C_k(k+r)(k+r-1)x^k+\sum_0^{\infty}C_k(k+r)x^k+\sum_2^{\infty} C_{k-2}x^k-p^2\sum_0^{\infty}C_kx^k\right]x^r\;=\;0[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow\; x^r\left[(r^2-p^2)C_0+[(r+1)^2-p^2]C_1 x+\sum_2^{\infty}\left([(k+r)(k+r)-p^2]C_k+C_{k-2}\right)x^k\right]\;=\;0[/tex]

According to the book, all the terms have to be zero for the equation to be zero.
[tex](r^2-p^2)C_0=0\;\Rightarrow r=^+_-p[/tex]
The book also say
[tex][(r+1)^2-p^2]C_1=0\;\Rightarrow C_1=0\;\hbox { because from above, }\;r=^+_-p[/tex]


My problem with this assumption ##C_1=0## is I can just as easy say ##(r+1)^2-p^2=0## and claim ##C_0=0##! This will change the whole equation of the Bessel's equation!

Why do I have to follow the book to let ##C_1=0## which result in all ##C_{2n+1}=0##? Is it just because it is simpler and more convenient this way?

You can make either choice. You will still find that the leading term in ##x^{k+r}## in the solution has degree ##p##. Choosing ##C_0\neq 0## makes ##r=p## and the sum over even powers ##k##, while choosing ##C_1\neq 0## makes ##r=p-1## and the sum over odd powers. In either case the series starts with ##x^p## and multiplies this by a polynomial in even powers. So the choice corresponds to shifting the definitions of ##k## and ##r## by ##\pm 1## in such a way that they cancel out in the complete solution.

Also, the book just said let ##C_0=\frac {1}{2^p\Gamma(1+p)}## without explaining why. Why?

I know it is for fitting the formula of:

[tex]J_p=\sum_0^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^k}{k! \Gamma(k+p+1)}\left(\frac {x}{2}\right)^{2k+p} [/tex]

But can you just let ##C_0## to be anything?

Thanks

Yes, since the equation is linear, any multiple of a solution is still a solution. So we can choose any convenient normalization that we want when we define the Bessel functions.
 
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Thanks for your answer.
 

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