Relating the entropy of an ideal gas with partial derivatives

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of extensible properties in a system to relate partial derivatives to entropy and the number of particles. The conversation also touches on the Gibbs Duhem equation and the relation between Gibbs energy and other thermodynamic variables.
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Mayan Fung
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Homework Statement
For an ideal gas, use ##dE=TdS-PdV+\mu dN## to prove
1. ##V(\frac{\partial P}{\partial T})_{\mu} = S##
2. ##V(\frac{\partial P}{\partial \mu})_T = N##
Relevant Equations
##dE=TdS-PdV+\mu dN##
It looks very easy at first glance. However, the variable S is a variable in the given expression. I have no clue to relate the partial derivatives to entropy and the number of particles.
 
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Using the extensible properties of the system as variables, we know that ##E (x \lambda) = \lambda E(X)## (Homogeneous function of degree a=1), so that we can say

##x * \nabla f = a f## (Euler's homogeneous theorem), where ##x = (x_{1},x_{2},...,x_{n})## is the vector with the variables.

So that
$$S( \partial E/ \partial S ) + V ( \partial E/ \partial V)+ N (\partial E/ \partial N )= a * E$$
$$ ST - PV + N \mu = E$$

The rest i think you can go on, eventually you will get the Gibbs Duhem equation
 
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Just to add to what @LCSphysicist wrote, first try to re-write each term on the RHS according to ##x\mathrm{d}y = \mathrm{d}(xy) - y\mathrm{d}x##.
 
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Thanks! This makes me recall the fact that ##G=\mu N## and ##G=U-TS+\mu N##
 
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Mayan Fung said:
Thanks! This makes me recall the fact that ##G=\mu N## and ##G=U-TS+\mu N##
Careful, it's ##G := U -TS + pV = \mu N##
 

FAQ: Relating the entropy of an ideal gas with partial derivatives

What is entropy and how does it apply to an ideal gas?

Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness in a system. For an ideal gas, the entropy is related to the number of microstates (possible arrangements of particles) that the gas can be in at a given energy. This means that as the gas expands and the number of possible arrangements increases, the entropy also increases.

How are partial derivatives used to relate entropy to an ideal gas?

Partial derivatives are used to calculate the change in entropy of an ideal gas when one or more variables, such as temperature or volume, are changed. This is because entropy is a function of multiple variables, and partial derivatives allow us to isolate and calculate the change in entropy for a specific variable while holding others constant.

What is the formula for calculating the change in entropy of an ideal gas?

The formula for calculating the change in entropy of an ideal gas is ΔS = nCv ln(T2/T1) + nR ln(V2/V1), where n is the number of moles of gas, Cv is the heat capacity at constant volume, T is the temperature, and V is the volume.

How does the change in entropy of an ideal gas relate to the second law of thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of a closed system will always increase over time. For an ideal gas, this means that as the gas expands, its entropy will increase. This is because the gas is becoming more disordered and there are more possible arrangements of particles.

Can the change in entropy of an ideal gas ever be negative?

No, the change in entropy of an ideal gas can never be negative. This is because the number of microstates, and therefore the entropy, can only increase or stay the same. A decrease in entropy would go against the second law of thermodynamics.

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