Relative Velocity Derivation from Maxwell-Boltzmann

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The discussion focuses on deriving the relative velocity between two molecules A and B using the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, which is expected to equal the square root of 2 times the average velocity. The user is attempting to transform the Cartesian differentials into center-of-mass differentials but struggles to prove the equivalence of the differentials. They begin with the transformation equations for relative and center-of-mass velocities but find discrepancies in their calculations. A suggestion is made to utilize the Jacobian determinant to facilitate the change of coordinates, confirming that the coordinate change does not affect the volume element. This insight helps clarify the derivation process for the user.
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Hi,
I have a specific question about the derivation of the relative velocity between two molecules A and B from the Maxwell Boltzmann distribution (which should equal square root of 2 times the average velocity).
In equations, I have been evaluating this integral:

\begin{eqnarray*}
c_r&=&\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}v_rP(v_{Ax},v_{Ay},v_{Az})dv_{Ax}dv_{Ay}dv_{Az}P(v_{Bx},v_{By},v_{Bz})dv_{Bx}dv_{By}dv_{Bz}\\
\ c_r&=&\bigg(\frac{m_A}{2\pi kT}\bigg)^{3/2}\bigg(\frac{m_B}{2\pi kT}\bigg)^{3/2}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\ldots\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}v_rdv_{Ax}...dv{_Bz}e^{-(m_A(v_{Ax}^2+v_{Ay}^2+v_{Az}^2)+m_B(v_{Bx}^2+v_{By}^2+v_{Bz}^2))/(2k_BT)}
\end{eqnarray*}

I have transformed to relative and center-of-mass velocity coordinates using these relations:
\begin{eqnarray*}
\ v_{ri}&=&v_{Ai}-v_{Bi}\\
\ v_{ci}&=&\frac{m_Av_{Ai}+m_Bv_{Bi}}{m_A+m_B}
\end{eqnarray*}

But now I cannot seem to prove that
\begin{equation*}
\ dv_{Ai}dv_{Bi} = dv_{ri}dv_{ci}\
\end{equation*}
(to transform the Cartesian differentials to center-of-mass differentials).

I have started like this ..
\begin{eqnarray*}
\ dv_{Ai}dv_{Bi}&=&\bigg(dv_{ci}+\frac{m_B}{m_A+m_B}dv_{ri}\bigg)\bigg(dv_{ci}-\frac{m_A}{m_A+m_B}dv_{ri}\bigg)\\
\ dv_{ri}dv_{ci}&\stackrel{?}{=}& dv_{ci}^2+\frac{m_B-m_A}{m_A+m_B}dv_{ri}dv_{ci}-\frac{m_Am_B}{(m_A+m_B)^2}dv_{ri}^2
\end{eqnarray*}

But do not end up with the final line actually being equal. If anyone has done this derivation before and has advice for converting the differentials I would be very, very grateful!
 
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When doing a change of coordinates with multiple variables, the way to find the general volume element dv_A dv_B in terms of the new variables is the Jacobian determinant; you can look at what I am referring to here. What you are really looking for is,

<br /> dv_{r}dv_{c}= \begin{vmatrix}\frac{\partial v_r}{\partial v_A} &amp; \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial v_B}\\ \frac{\partial v_c}{\partial v_A} &amp; \frac{\partial v_c}{\partial v_B}\end{vmatrix}=\begin{vmatrix} 1 &amp; -1 \\ \frac{m_A}{m_A +m_B} &amp; \frac{m_B}{m_A+m_B}\end{vmatrix} = 1<br />

so it looks like this coordinate change does not affect the volume element.
 
Excellent! Thank you so much.
 
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