Rocket Thrust Balancing Gravity

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A rocket needs to hover above the ground by balancing thrust and gravity, using a maximum of 10% of its initial mass as fuel. The thrust equation relates the rate of mass loss to the exhaust velocity and gravitational force. Initial calculations led to a negative time due to the assumption that mass loss is positive; however, correcting for the negative rate of mass change resolves this issue. The final equation for hover time is derived as t = (v_ex/g) ln(1/(1 - λ)), resulting in a positive value for time. This solution is confirmed as valid for the problem at hand.
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Homework Statement


A rocket (initial mass m0) needs to use its engines ot hover stationary, just above the ground. If it can afford to burn no more than a mass (lamda)m0 of its fuel, for how long can it hover? If the exhaust velocity is 3000 m/s and lambda is 10% how long can the rocket hover?

Homework Equations


Thrust = v_{ex} \frac{dm}{dt}

v_{ex} is the exhaust velocity

The Attempt at a Solution



So starting off with the basic sum of forces equals zero:

\dot{m}v_{ex} = mg

\frac{dm}{dt} = \frac{mg}{v_{ex}}

\frac{dm}{m} = \frac{g dt}{v_{ex}}

\frac{g}{v_{ex}} \int_{0}^{t} dt = \int_{m_{0}}^{m_{0} - \lambda m_{0}} \frac{dm}{m}

\frac{g}{v_{ex}} t = ln(m) ]_{m_{0}}^{m_{0} - \lambda m_{0}}

\frac{g}{v_{ex}} t = ln [m_{0} - \lambda m_{0}] - ln [m_{0}]

\frac{g}{v_{ex}} t = ln [\frac{m_{0} - \lambda m_{0}}{m_{0}}]

\frac{g}{v_{ex}} t = ln [ 1 - \lambda]

t = \frac{v_{ex}}{g} ln [ 1 - \lambda]

And here is where I encounter an issue. Since lambda will always be positive, regardless of how much fuel the rocket can expend this equation will give a negative time. Does anyone see where I went wrong with the calculations, or are my original assumptions wrong?

Thanks for any and all help
 
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The thrust equation just gives magnitude. Note that dm/dt should be a negative number since mass is decreasing.
 
So if I carry along the negative associated with the decreasing mass, then the last few steps would be:

(-) t = \frac{v_{ex}}{g} ln [ 1 - \lambda]

t = - \frac{v_{ex}}{g} ln [ 1 - \lambda]

t = \frac{v_{ex}}{g} ln [ (1 - \lambda)^(-1)]

t = \frac{v_{ex}}{g} ln [ \frac{1}{1 - \lambda}]

And that would give a positive value for time. This equation makes sense, but is it a proper solution?
 
That's correct.
 
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