Rotating Cylinder, Centripital Motion, and Coeffients of friction.

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In a discussion about a rotating amusement park ride, participants explore the physics of centripetal motion and friction. The cylinder's radius is 3.00 meters, and it rotates at 50 RPM, prompting questions about the minimum coefficient of friction needed to prevent riders from slipping. Calculations involve determining velocity and acceleration, with one participant calculating a velocity of 15.71 m/s and an inward force of 822.467 N based on a 10 kg rider. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using variables in equations to simplify the problem, particularly in deriving the coefficient of friction. Understanding the forces acting on the rider, including normal and frictional forces, is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



So, in a popular amusement park ride, a cylinder with a radius of 3.00 meters is set in rotation. The floor then drops away, and leaves riders suspended against the wall in a vertical position.

a. If the Cylinder rotates at 50 RPM, what minimum coefficient of friction between a rider's clothing and the wall of the cylinder is necessary to keep the rider from slipping?
b. If the coefficient of friction between the rider's clothing and the wall of the cylinder is 0.200, at what minimum rotational speed (in RPM) must the ride rotate?

Homework Equations



a = V2 / r
Ff= μFn
V = 2πrRPM / 60
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



So, I started with Drawing a diagram of this situation. I drew a cylinder with a radius of 3m, and spinning at 50RPM. The forces I drew were Fa, so the centripetal force, and the force of gravity on the rider. Then I used the V = 2πrRPM / 60 to get my velocity of 15.71 m/s, plugged that into the a = V2 / r to get an acceleration of 82.246 m/s2, then plugged that into the F = ma equation. I assumed a mass of 10kg for the rider (no mass was given), and got an inward force of 822.467N. Now I'm completely stuck. I have the Ff= μFn equation, but I do not have a force of Friction, and I need to solve for Mu. I'm also not sure if I need to use the inward force for this equation, instead of the force of gravity.
 
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I assumed a mass of 10kg for the rider (no mass was given), and got an inward force of 822.467N.
Don't do this. It will work out in the end, but it's better to leave "m" in the equations and see if it cancels out at the end (as you would expect).

I have the Ff= μFn equation, but I do not have a force of Friction, and I need to solve for Mu. I'm also not sure if I need to use the inward force for this equation, instead of the force of gravity.
Fn is the normal force. Have you drawn a free body diagram, or can you visualize all the forces on the rider? When you add up the frictional force, the weight force, and the normal force, what do you get?
 
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