Same state as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe?

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Is it possible that if the universe collapses, it reaches the same state as in its beginning?
Suppose the universe were to eventually collapse in a Big Crunch [1]. How closely could the universe's final moments resemble those at the beginning of the universe? Could the universe return to its original state exactly in some kind of "Big Crunch" or "Big Bounce" model?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
 
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Suppose the universe were to eventually collapse in a Big Crunch [1]. How closely could the universe's final moments resemble those at the beginning of the universe?
Not close at all. In such a universe, the Big Bang has uniform density everywhere to a very good approximation, i.e., no gravitational clumping has occurred. But over the history of the universe, gravitational clumping does occur--the matter clumps into galaxies, stars, planets, and eventually into black holes. So the Big Crunch will be highly non-uniform, very different from the Big Bang.
 
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This has indeed been a criticism aimed at "oscillating universe" models, there would seem to be a constant increase in entropy (in the form of greater inhomogeneity in the matter, energy, and gravity) that could not "reboot" the same Big Bang conditions. It should be noted, however, that Nobel laureate Roger Penrose feels he has an answer to that: the "conformal cyclic cosmology" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology). It's pretty technical, but the basic idea seems to be that you don't need Big Crunches, you just need infinite expansions to achieve such low densities that there is, in some sense, nothing to anchor down the space (not his way of saying it, but it's what I'm taking from it), allowing for what he calls "conformal rescaling." I think the essence of it is that the universe periodically loses track of its own size scale, and acts like it is once again very dense and hot. The entropy problem goes away in this rescaling event, and like waves lapping at the shore, you get behavior that acts like one Big Bang after another without any Big Crunches in between. I can't speak to its plausibility, Roger Penrose knows more GR in any one of his nerve ganglions than I know in my whole brain.
 

FAQ: Same state as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe?

What is the "same state" as in the Big Bang in a collapsing universe?

The "same state" refers to a singularity, a point of infinite density and temperature where the known laws of physics break down. In the Big Bang, this singularity marked the beginning of the universe. In a collapsing universe, it would represent the end, often termed the "Big Crunch."

How does a collapsing universe lead to a similar state as the Big Bang?

In a collapsing universe scenario, gravitational forces would cause all matter and energy to contract back into a singular point. This process reverses the expansion that started with the Big Bang, leading to a state of extremely high density and temperature, similar to the conditions at the universe's inception.

What evidence supports the possibility of a collapsing universe?

Current evidence, primarily from observations of the cosmic microwave background and the expansion rate of the universe, supports an accelerating universe rather than a collapsing one. However, theoretical models, such as those involving cyclic or oscillating universes, suggest that a collapse could follow the expansion phase under certain conditions.

What role does dark energy play in preventing a collapsing universe?

Dark energy is a mysterious force driving the accelerated expansion of the universe. Its presence counteracts gravitational forces that would otherwise lead to a collapse. If dark energy continues to dominate, it is unlikely that the universe will collapse into a singularity.

What would happen to the laws of physics in a collapsing universe reaching a singularity?

At the singularity, the density and temperature would become infinite, causing the breakdown of our current understanding of physics, including general relativity and quantum mechanics. This state challenges our theories and suggests that a new, unified theory of quantum gravity would be necessary to describe such extreme conditions.

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