Show that the system of equations has no unique solution

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chwala
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@Mark44 we discussed this sometime back on the forum. The approach of using determinant or echelon form of a matrix was sufficient.

Would i be correct to use this approach,

##x+2y+3z=4x+5y+6z##
##3x+3y+3z=0##

and

##7x+8y+9z=x+2y+3z##
##6x+6y+6z=0##

Then, it follows that the two equations are dependent i.e

##6x+6y+6z= 2(3x+3y+3z)##

thus the system cannot have a unique solution.
 
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This is a continuation of the problem;

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In my approach from 1.i,
##3x+3y+3z=0##
##x+y+z=0##
##x+y+\dfrac{1}{3} (1-x-2y)=0##
##3x+3y+1-x-2y=0##
##2x+y=-1##
##y=-2x-1##
 
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chwala said:
Would i be correct to use this approach,
##x+2y+3z=4x+5y+6z##
##3x+3y+3z=0##
and
##7x+8y+9z=x+2y+3z##
##6x+6y+6z=0##
chwala said:
Then, it follows that the two equations are dependent i.e
##6x+6y+6z= 2(3x+3y+3z)##
thus the system cannot have a unique solution.
It seems to have led to the correct result, but it's a little hard to follow your work.

Working with the 1st and 2nd equations, you have:
##4x+5y+6z = 1##
##x+2y+3z = 1##
and you subtracted the 2nd equation from the first to get ##3x + 3y + 3z = 0##. It would have been helpful to indicate that you did that subtraction to get your third equation. BTW, that equation is equivalent to x + y + z = 0.

You did essentially the same thing working with the 2nd and 3rd equations. Geometrically you found that the planes represented by the 1st and 2nd equations intersect in the plane x + y + z = 0. Similarly, you found that the planes represented by the 2nd and 3rd equations also intersect in the plane x + y + z = 0.

Rather than working with equations as you did, IMO it's much better to either calculate the determinant of the matrix of coefficients to show that it's zero, or to use Gauss-Jordan elimination to show that you end up with one or more rows of zeroes.

chwala said:
In my approach from 1.i,
##3x+3y+3z=0##
##x+y+z=0##
##x+y+\dfrac{1}{3} (1-x-2y)=0##
##3x+3y+1-x-2y=0##
##2x+y=-1##
##y=-2x-1##
This is really hard to follow with no explanation of what you're doing. Eqn. 1 above apparently comes from subtracting the 1st given equation from the 2nd given equation.
Eqn. 2 is the simplification of Eqn. 1.
Eqn. 3 apparently comes from solving for z in the 1st given equation and substituting it into Eqn. 2.
Eqns. 4, 5, and 6 come from various simplifications.

Using Gauss-Jordan elimination I find a solution that includes these two points: (-1, 1, 0) and (0, -1, 1) plus an infinite number of other points.
 
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FAQ: Show that the system of equations has no unique solution

What does it mean for a system of equations to have no unique solution?

A system of equations has no unique solution when there are either infinitely many solutions or no solutions at all. This typically occurs when the equations are dependent (leading to the same line or plane) or inconsistent (leading to parallel lines or planes that never intersect). In both cases, the solution set does not yield a single, distinct answer.

How can I determine if a system of equations has no unique solution?

You can determine if a system has no unique solution by analyzing its coefficient matrix and its augmented matrix. If the rank of the coefficient matrix is less than the rank of the augmented matrix, the system has no solutions. If the ranks are equal but less than the number of variables, the system has infinitely many solutions.

What are some common methods to show that a system has no unique solution?

Common methods include using row reduction (Gaussian elimination) to bring the system to row echelon form and examining the resulting equations. Alternatively, you can use the determinant of the coefficient matrix; if the determinant is zero, the system may have no unique solution. Additionally, graphing the equations can visually show whether they intersect at a unique point, are parallel, or coincide.

Can you provide an example of a system with no unique solution?

Sure! Consider the system of equations: 1) 2x + 4y = 8 2) x + 2y = 4. The second equation is just a multiple of the first. This means they represent the same line, leading to infinitely many solutions (all points on the line). Hence, this system has no unique solution.

What role does the determinant play in identifying uniqueness?

The determinant of the coefficient matrix is a crucial factor in determining the uniqueness of solutions. If the determinant is non-zero, the system has a unique solution. If the determinant is zero, it indicates that the system may have either no solutions or infinitely many solutions, necessitating further analysis to determine which case applies.

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