Solve for Eigenvalues in QFT using Matrix Algebra | Ryder's QFT p.44

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The discussion focuses on solving for eigenvalues in quantum field theory as presented in Ryder's QFT. Participants explore the calculation of eigenvalues from the equation (\gamma^{\mu}p_{\mu} - m)\psi(p) = 0, initially leading to discrepancies in results. One contributor identifies errors in their determinant calculation and the matrix used for \gamma^0, which resulted in incorrect eigenvalues. After correcting these mistakes, they arrive at the correct determinant, (E^2 - m^2 - p^2)^2, confirming the expected eigenvalues. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate matrix representation and determinant calculation in obtaining the correct results.
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Homework Statement


On page 44 of Ryder's QFT, near the bottom of the page, it says:
Ryder said:
it is straightforward to show, by writing out all four components of (2.94), that the eigenvalues of E are:
E = +(m^2 + p^2)^{1/2} twice,
E = -(m^2 + p^2)^{1/2} twice,

Homework Equations


Equation (2.94) is
(\gamma^{\mu}p_{\mu} - m)\psi(p) = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


Writing out all four components, and then taking the determinant and setting to zero, I get:
m^4 - (E^2 - p^2)^2 = 0 or m^4 = (E^2 - p^2)^2
Taking the square root once:
\pm m^2 = E^2 - p^2 or E^2 = p^2 \pm m^2.
And taking the square root again:
E = \pm(p^2 \pm m^2)^{1/2}
and I end up with different eigenvalues than I am supposed to.
 
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How did you calculate the determinant? I calculated it with some formulae, and I got only two eigenvalues. Maybe you should try using a software like mathematica to calculate it by brute force.

Let just hope that your Dirac matrices are same as mine. I used

http://www.stochasticsoccer.com/Clipboard01.jpg

then I used
(\sigma_\mu p^\mu)(\sigma'_\mu p^\mu) = p_\mu p^\mu
where \sigma^\mu = (1, \sigma^i)
where \sigma'^\mu = (1, -\sigma^i)
\sigma^i are Pauli matrices.

I got m^2 = E^2 - p^2.
 
kakarukeys said:
I got m^2 = E^2 - p^2.
Thanks for taking a look at this kakarukeys. I don't think your equation could be the determinant since there are supposed to be 4 eigenvalues, and your equation is only quadratic in E.
 
At one stage of my calculations, I had ()^2 = 0 implies () = 0
so a 4th order eq became quadratic eq
 
kakarukeys said:
At one stage of my calculations, I had ()^2 = 0 implies () = 0
so a 4th order eq became quadratic eq

So, each of your distinct eigenvalues is repeated.
 
Thanks kakarukeys. I was making two errors. First of all, I had the wrong matrix for \gamma^0, and second of all, I was calculating the determinant incorrectly. With your help, I now get the following determinant:
(E^2 - m^2 - p^2)^2 and setting this to zero gives the correct eigenvalues. Thanks George to you as well. Actually, I gathered the same meaning from message #4 as you did, but it's good to know that you have my back.
 
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