Solving Electrochemistry Problems with Fick & Cottrell Laws

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The discussion focuses on solving electrochemistry problems using Fick's and Cottrell's laws, particularly in the context of planar and spherical electrodes. Participants clarify the relationship between current density and concentration, correcting initial misunderstandings about the proportionality to concentration gradients. A solution for planar diffusion is provided, leading to the Cottrell law expression. The conversation shifts to finding the expression for concentration in spherical coordinates, emphasizing the need for boundary conditions that reflect spherical symmetry. Suggestions are made to seek further assistance in a math-focused forum for solving the differential equations related to diffusion.
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Hello everybody
I have got an electrochemistry probleme
In the case of a planar electrode (one dimension) the current density is proportinnal to the concentration of electroactive species: i=-nFkC C depending of time
From Fick law dC/dt=Dd2C/d2x we can found Cottrell law: i=-nFAC0(D/PIt)1/2

Do tou know How?

And my second question is
What is the fick lack for spherical coordinate and what are the expression of C(t, spheric coordinate)
And also what is the new expression of Cottrell law?

Thank You for your attention and I apologize for my bad english.
Christophe
 
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With respect to Fick's Law - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fick's_law_of_diffusion

As for spherical coordinates, see -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_in_cylindrical_and_spherical_coordinates

For a purely radial dependency, use only the \frac{\partial^2}{\partial{r^2}} term.

With regard to this question -
From Fick law dC/dt=Dd2C/d2x we can found Cottrell law: i=-nFAC0(D/PIt)1/2

Do tou know How?
Please clarify what one is asking. "Do you know how . . . ?"
 
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Chris-jap said:
Hello everybody
I have got an electrochemistry probleme
In the case of a planar electrode (one dimension) the current density is proportinnal to the concentration of electroactive species: i=-nFkC C depending of time
Are you sure about this ?

I thought the current density was proportional to the concentration gradient dC(x,t)/dx
 
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Thank you for your help
Your answer solve one part of my problem.
I made a mistake for the expression of current density, Goku you are right.

Thanks to you I solve one part of my problem

I found this solution for planar diffusion (not me, in a chemistry book)
C(x,t)=C0erf(x/(Dt)1/2)
and dC(x,t)/dx=C0/(PiDt)1/2 for x=0 replacing this term in the expression of current we found Cottrell law.

Now I try to found the expression of C(r,t) for a purely radial dependence and dC(r,t)/dr for r=R (R is the radius of the sphere, particles are inside the sphere and diffuse for the center to the border of the the sphere)

Do you have any other suggestion?

Chris
 
Chris-jap said:
Thank you for your help
Your answer solve one part of my problem.
I made a mistake for the expression of current density, Goku you are right.

Thanks to you I solve one part of my problem

I found this solution for planar diffusion (not me, in a chemistry book)
C(x,t)=C0erf(x/(Dt)1/2)
and dC(x,t)/dx=C0/(PiDt)1/2 for x=0 replacing this term in the expression of current we found Cottrell law.
Correct (if your initial condition is C(x,t=0) = C0 ).

Now I try to found the expression of C(r,t) for a purely radial dependence and dC(r,t)/dr for r=R (R is the radius of the sphere, particles are inside the sphere and diffuse for the center to the border of the the sphere)
This just looks like the 3D generalization of the previous 1D problem (with boundary conditions that require spherical symmetry). (ie : you are looking at 3D diffusion from a point source)

Perhaps the solution would look like dC(r,t)/dr = Kr2exp(r2/Pi*D*t) ?

You should probably ask a question in the math section (Calc and beyond) on methods for solving the differential equation for diffusion. They will be able to help better.
 
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