Some questions about this vintage periodic table

In summary, the art supply store had an old periodic table that had aesthetic value to the purchaser. The purchaser studied the table for a month and was comfortable with 80% of the information. The purchaser is posting this to the QM forum instead of Chemistry because their undergraduate degree is in physics. The table includes the name of the element for Nobelium, which was accepted by IUPAC in 1957.
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I was recently in an art supply store and saw a print of a vintage periodic table that I thought had real aesthetic value. I bought it and like any enthusiast I hung it in my bathroom. For the past month I have been studying it as I brush my teeth and feel comfortable with 80% of the information. I am posting this to the QM forum rather than Chemistry because my undergraduate degree is in physics, and I feel more at home here. Here is the print ...

Here is a closeup of Nitrogen ...

Here is a small key to the chart ...

Question 1

I do not understand the "X" with numbers that represent Valence electrons. I assume it has to do with the rules of adding electrons to orbitals but symbolism here escapes me.

Question 2

Looking at the way the information is presented and the content, about what year do you think this was created?

Any other comments on the presentation and information are welcome! I hope this is appropriate for this forum.
 

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jmatt said:
Looking at the way the information is presented and the content, about what year do you think this was created?
The fact that the atomic weight of oxygen is given as exactly 16.0000 suggests that it was made before 1961, since that was the year in which the atomic mass unit was redefined to be 1/12 of the mass of the carbon-12 isotope instead of 1/16 of the mass of a naturally occurring mixture of oxygen isotopes.
 
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Also, element 103 is missing, which is Lawrencium (discovered 1961).
Technetium (element 43 ) is present in the table, this element was named in 1947.
 
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I asked chatgpt to give me a sorted list (by year of the current naming of the element) of the elements from the periodic table, and it gave for Nobelium the year 1957, which is already in the table. The wiki page tells me 1957 was the official year of discovery, so it might be that the name was not given in exactly this year (for example Technetium was already discovered in 1937).
 
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bigfooted said:
I asked chatgpt
ChatGPT is not a reliable source. Please do not post material from ChatGPT.
 
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bigfooted said:
The wiki page tells me 1957 was the official year of discovery
For Nobelium, I think it's more complicated than that. Here is the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobelium

A Swedish team at the Nobel Institute claimed discovery in 1957, but it's not clear how widely accepted their claims were since a team at Berkeley repeated their experiment in 1958 and were unable to detect what the Swedish team claimed to have detected. As the article notes, later work made it much more likely that the Swedish team was actually detecting thorium-225.

That said, the article does say that the name Nobelium for element 102 was accepted by IUPAC in 1957, so that in itself might have been enough to convince a maker of periodic tables to include it with that name, even if the full details of its discovery were still in dispute.
 
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It looks just like the one that hung on the wall of my high school Chemistry class back in the late 60's/early 70's.
 
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Thanks everyone. Any thoughts on the "X" and valence electrons?
 
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Those tiny figures in the X show the most probable (the most common) oxydation number states. For Nitrogen, they give -3 (for metallic compounds, or for NH_3), +2 for NO, and +5 for N_2 O_5.
 
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Ahh ... thanks! Lot of information in one little graphic.
 
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phyzguy said:
It looks just like the one that hung on the wall of my high school Chemistry class back in the late 60's/early 70's.
Mine too! I think it was popular in that era.
 

FAQ: Some questions about this vintage periodic table

What is a vintage periodic table?

A vintage periodic table is an older version of the periodic table of elements, often from a time when fewer elements were known or when the table was organized differently. These tables can be valuable for historical study and for understanding the development of chemical science.

How does a vintage periodic table differ from the modern periodic table?

A vintage periodic table may lack some of the elements that have been discovered more recently. Additionally, the arrangement of elements might differ, as the understanding of atomic structure and properties has evolved over time. The older tables might also use different symbols or names for certain elements.

Why is studying a vintage periodic table important?

Studying a vintage periodic table is important for understanding the history and evolution of chemistry. It provides insights into how scientific knowledge has progressed and how early chemists understood and categorized the elements. This can be useful for educational purposes and for appreciating the advancements in the field.

Where can I find vintage periodic tables?

Vintage periodic tables can be found in old chemistry textbooks, scientific archives, museums, and libraries. Some might also be available for purchase through antique dealers or online marketplaces. Additionally, digital archives and educational websites may have scans or reproductions of historical periodic tables.

What should I look for when comparing vintage and modern periodic tables?

When comparing vintage and modern periodic tables, you should look for differences in the number of elements, the arrangement and grouping of elements, the symbols and names used, and any additional information or annotations that reflect the scientific knowledge of the time. Noting these differences can help you understand how the periodic table has evolved and why certain changes were made.

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