Speed of Muons, calculate KE and Momentum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed, kinetic energy, and momentum of muons based on their lifetimes at rest and in motion. Part A successfully calculates the speed of the muons as approximately 0.98876c, translating to about 2.966E8 m/s. In Part B, the kinetic energy is derived using the correct relativistic formula, but there is confusion regarding the mass value, which should be 105.77 MeV instead of 105 MeV. For Part C, the momentum calculation requires the use of the relativistic momentum formula, which incorporates the velocity and mass, and clarification is needed on how to express the gamma factor correctly. Understanding the relationship between total energy, kinetic energy, and momentum is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement


The average lifetime of muons at rest is 2.20 μs. A laboratory measurement on muons traveling in a beam emerging from a particle accelerator yields an average muon lifetime of 14.718 μs.
a) What is the speed of the muons in the laboratory?
b) What is their kinetic energy? (MeV)
c) What is their momentum? (MeV/c) The mass of a muon is 207 times that of an electron.

Homework Equations


Part A: SQRT(1-(To/T)^2), where To is the average lifetime at rest and T is the second lifetime given in the problem.

Part B: KE= M[(1/sqrt(1-B^2))-1]
where: M=mass of muon= 105MeV
B= v/c, where v (in m/s) is the speed calculated in part A

Part C:
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The Attempt at a Solution


I found Part A, have a question about B, and I don't understand how to calculate C.

Part A: SQRT(1-(2.2/14.718)^2)=0.98876c=0.98876(3E8)=2.966E8 m/s

Part B equation was given by one of my classmates, but I know I'm doing something wrong.
KE=(105 MeV)((1/SQRT(1-((2.966E8)/(3E8))^2)-1)=594.41 MeV
I kept getting this one wrong due to user error with those parentheses, but the online homework told me that number was correct, but changed it to 602 MeV?? Is that equation right, and the number accepted was in a range? Is there a way to be more exact in the equation?

Part C:
p=SQRT(KE*2*m)
If the mass of an electron is 9E-31 kg, then a muon is 207 times that, =12439 kg
p=SQRT(602*2*12439)=3869, which isn't right.
The homework asks for units of MeV/c...does that mean I divide by 3E8?
Is that even the correct equation to use?
Please help!
 
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You have used a non-relativistic expression for the relation between kinetic energyy and momentum, you need to use the relativistic expression for momentum, involving the particle velocity, mass, and gamma factor.
 
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p=(m)(v) / SQRT(1-(v^2)/(c^2))
Where would the kinetic energy be in the equation?
 
rlc said:
p=(m)(v) / SQRT(1-(v^2)/(c^2))
Where would the kinetic energy be in the equation?

Energy would simply be:

E = \gamma m_0 c^2

where ##m_0## is the rest mass. (Try proving that relation from ##E^2 = p^2c^2 + m_0^2c^4## and ##\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}}##).
 
unscientific said:
Energy would simply be:

E = \gamma m_0 c^2

where ##m_0## is the rest mass. (Try proving that relation from ##E^2 = p^2c^2 + m_0^2c^4## and ##\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}}##).
Is this for calculating KE or momentum?
 
You do not need the kinetic energy to compute the momentum. It is sufficient with the mass and the velocity you computed in A.
 
rlc said:
Is this for calculating KE or momentum?

Hint: If total energy = KE + rest mass energy = ##\gamma m_0 c^2##, what is the KE?

With this KE, how do you work out the momentum using the total energy expression?
 
Orodruin said:
You do not need the kinetic energy to compute the momentum. It is sufficient with the mass and the velocity you computed in A.
Orodruin is right. But maybe if you want to understand it more, derive an expression for total energy in terms of ##\gamma## and rest mass ##m_0##. Then you will see that at any given speed there is a given ##\gamma##, and the total energy (KE + rest mass energy) is simply a factor of ##\gamma## times rest mass energy.
 
So would this equation end up working?
p=(m)(v) / SQRT(1-(v^2)/(c^2))
 
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Also, your method on B is correct, you just have not used the same value for the mass as stated in the problem (which equates to 105.77 MeV rather than 105 MeV).
 
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rlc said:
So would this equation end up working?
p=(m)(v) / SQRT(1-(v^2)/(c^2))

Yes. However, I suggest keeping the expression T/T0 for the gamma factor to avoid rounding errors.
 
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Oh, so would I use the average lifetime at rest value and the average accelerated lifetime value in this equation as well?
 
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p=[1/SQRT(1-(2.2/14.718)^2]*(mass)(velocity)
where mass=207*9E-31=12439
velocity is what I solved for in part a: 2.966E8

Did I miss something?
 
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Now you inserted the expression for the velocity in terms of the times instead of the gamma factor. The gamma factor has a far simpler expression in T and T0...
 
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Orodruin said:
Now you inserted the expression for the velocity in terms of the times instead of the gamma factor. The gamma factor has a far simpler expression in T and T0...
I'm sorry, I just really don't understand.
 
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Would T and T0 have the same values in the calculation for momentum as they did in the calculation for speed?
p=(m)(v) / SQRT(1-(T/T0)) ?
 
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What is the gamma factor ##\gamma## in terms of the times T and T0?
 
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Would that be: 1/SQRT(1-(T/T0)) ?
 
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No. How did you solve part A? What were the quantities involved?
 
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SQRT(1-(To/T)^2)
Sorry, I kept forgetting the squared and I put them out of order. This worked for part a, but would this be 1/sqrt or just the sqrt?
 
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Yes but how did you arrive at this formula? What is the gamma factor?
 
  • #22
(105.95*answerA with units"c")/squareroot[1-(answerA with units "c")^2]
 
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