Spin expectation value of singlet state from two axes

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spin expectation value of a singlet state using Pauli matrices. Participants clarify that S1 and S2 should be expressed in a consistent basis, either with S1 along the z-axis or S2 at an angle θ from it. The importance of the sign in the cosine function is emphasized, as it affects the calculations based on the angle's orientation. A detailed solution is provided, leading to the expression for the expectation value, which incorporates orthogonality conditions. The conversation highlights the challenges of homework assistance while adhering to forum rules.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I am just trying to figure out how to start the problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Start by writing S1 and S2 in terms of the pauli matrices.
 
Sourabh N said:
Start by writing S1 and S2 in terms of the pauli matrices.

Would S1=Sz and S2 have cos(θ) instead of 1's in the matrix?
 
Yes, but you need to be careful about the sign, whether it is cos(θ) or -cos(θ), since the question says -"makes an angle θ down with the z axis".
 
Sourabh N said:
Yes, but you need to be careful about the sign, whether it is cos(θ) or -cos(θ), since the question says -"makes an angle θ down with the z axis".

Ok, but what does the question mean by picking a single basis to work in? I just don't know what the question is saying.
 
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I believe they are trying to tell you to have both S_1 and S_2 in the same basis, i.e, either choose S_1 to lie along z-axis and S_2 to lie theta away from it, or choose S_2 to lie along z-axis and S_1 to lie -theta away from it.

Since they already chose the first of these options, the hint is redundant (as the author say so themselves!).
 
may be it will be clear if I show some solution,
Using the notation of question and I use + for up and - for down,

<00|S1S2|00>=-h-/2.h-/2 cosθ.(1/2)(<+-|+->+<-+|-+>),other two terms in brackets which you get are zero because of orthogonality condition.(The extra minus sign in front is just because cos(1800-θ)=-cosθ) and you will get this
=-h-2/4.cosθ(because <+-|+->=1 and similarly for other)
edit:I hope this post will not be deleted like some of my previous ones.
 
andrien said:
may be it will be clear if I show some solution,
Using the notation of question and I use + for up and - for down,

<00|S1S2|00>=-h-/2.h-/2 cosθ.(1/2)(<+-|+->+<-+|-+>),other two terms in brackets which you get are zero because of orthogonality condition.(The extra minus sign in front is just because cos(1800-θ)=-cosθ) and you will get this
=-h-2/4.cosθ(because <+-|+->=1 and similarly for other)
edit:I hope this post will not be deleted like some of my previous ones.

Thank you andrien, your answer was clear and to the point. I don't know why your other posts would have been deleted but this one won't be.
 
bencmier said:
Thank you andrien, your answer was clear and to the point. I don't know why your other posts would have been deleted but this one won't be.

it is just because I can not do anyone's homework in this section.I have already gotten infraction for this.But you saw it,so cheers!
 
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