Spinning ice skater (angular momentum)

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a figure skater's angular momentum and moment of inertia as she changes her arm position. The skater's initial and final moments of inertia are calculated, with confusion arising around the application of the parallel-axis theorem. Participants clarify that the moment of inertia should first be calculated around the center of mass before adjusting for the new axis of rotation. After correcting the calculations, the skater's final rotational speed is determined to be slower at 0.98 rev/s. The conversation highlights common challenges in understanding rotational motion concepts.
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Homework Statement


A 45 kg figure skater is spinning on the toes of her skates at 1.0 rev/s. Her arms are outstretched as far as they will go. In this orientation, the skater can be modeled as a cylindrical torso (40 kg, 20 cm average diameter, 160 cm tall) plus two rod-like arms (2.5 kg each, 66 cm long) attached to the outside of the torso. The skater then raises her arms straight above her head, where she appears to be a 45 kg, 20 cm diameter, 200 cm-tall cylinder.


Homework Equations


Conservation of angular momentum
Moment of Inertia

The Attempt at a Solution



Li = (Ib + 2(Ia))wi
wi = 6.2831 rad/s
Ib = (1/2)(40)(.1)(.1)
Ia = (1/3)(2.5)(.66)2

Lf = (If)(wf)
If = (1/2)(45)(.1)2

Li = Lf

Solve for wf

wf = (.926)(6.2831)/(.225)

Any ideas where I went wrong?
 
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The arms are attached at the outside of the torso, so I_a is wrong.
 
Okay, I get that I should use the parallel-axis theorem, but I'm a little confused about how to apply it.

Would it be the moment of inertia as I calculated it + the mass of the rod times the radius of the skater's torso?

The definition says that you should take the moment of inertia about the center of mass and then add the distance of the new axis (times the mass), so I'm a little confused with the terminology.
 
Cfem said:
Okay, I get that I should use the parallel-axis theorem, but I'm a little confused about how to apply it.

Would it be the moment of inertia as I calculated it + the mass of the rod times the radius of the skater's torso?

No. For the parallel-axis theorem you need the moment of inertia around the center of mass.
(and you add that to the mass of the rod times the square of the distance from the center of mass to the axis of rotation
 
Ugh.

Ia = (1/12)(2.5)(.12) + 2.5(.432)

Plugging in the new values gives me a final rotational speed of .98 rev/s, which is slower.

I hate rotational motion.
 
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