Step Ladder on a rough survace - torques help

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In summary, a step ladder is modelled as two rods, OA and AB, hinged at A. The rods rest on a rough horizontal floor and have masses of m and 4m, respectively. The angle each rod makes with the vertical is theta. The forces acting on the rods can be expressed in terms of i and j, and two scalar equations can be obtained to determine the equilibrium of the system.
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A step ladder is moddelled as two model rods OA and Ab smoothly hinged at A. The other ends of the rods rest on a rough horizontal floor. The mass of rod AB is 4m and that of rod OA is m. The andle each rod makes with the vertical is theta. The origin is taken at O and the unit vectors i and j are defined as shown.

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Torque = position vector * Force

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Ok a) is drawing the force diagram Iv got that down I think

B) Express each for in terms of i and j (Iv got that)
F1 = Friction acting on O = lF1l i
F2 = Friction acting on B = - lF2l i
N1 = Normal Reaction of OA = lN1l j
N2 = Normal Reaction of AB = lN2l j
W1 = Weight of rod OA = -lw1l j
W2 = Weight of rod AB = -lw2l j

but is says hence obtain two scalar equations relating to the magnitude of the forces when the system is in equilibrium. and then find the torque of each force about O.

I really don't understand this any help much appreciated!
 
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Hi Bruno1983! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a theta: θ :wink:)
Bruno1983 said:
A step ladder is moddelled as two model rods OA and Ab smoothly hinged at A. The other ends of the rods rest on a rough horizontal floor. The mass of rod AB is 4m and that of rod OA is m. The andle each rod makes with the vertical is theta. The origin is taken at O and the unit vectors i and j are defined as shown.

B) Express each for in terms of i and j (Iv got that)
F1 = Friction acting on O = lF1l i
F2 = Friction acting on B = - lF2l i
N1 = Normal Reaction of OA = lN1l j
N2 = Normal Reaction of AB = lN2l j
W1 = Weight of rod OA = -lw1l j
W2 = Weight of rod AB = -lw2l j

but is says hence obtain two scalar equations relating to the magnitude of the forces when the system is in equilibrium. and then find the torque of each force about O.

In this context, scalar means "not vector".

A vector equation would be ai + bj + ci + dj = 0, or (a,b) + (c,d) = 0

That can be decomposed into two scalar equations:

a + c = 0 and b + d = 0

Similarly you could decompose (a,b,c) x (d,e,f) = (u,v,w) into three scalar equations :wink:
 
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FAQ: Step Ladder on a rough survace - torques help

What is a step ladder on a rough surface and how does it use torques?

A step ladder on a rough surface is a tool used for reaching elevated areas that have uneven or unstable ground. Torques, or rotational forces, are used to keep the ladder stable and prevent it from tipping or sliding.

How do torques help a step ladder on a rough surface?

Torques help by creating a counteracting force to the weight and movements of the ladder and the person using it. This keeps the ladder in place and prevents it from falling or shifting.

What factors affect the effectiveness of torques on a step ladder?

The weight of the ladder and the person using it, the angle of the ladder, and the roughness of the surface all affect the effectiveness of torques. A heavier weight or steeper angle may require a greater torque force to keep the ladder stable.

How can one calculate the torque needed for a step ladder on a rough surface?

The torque needed can be calculated by multiplying the weight of the ladder and person by the distance from the point of rotation (where the ladder meets the ground) to the center of mass of the ladder and person.

Are there any safety precautions to consider when using a step ladder on a rough surface?

Yes, it is important to always make sure the ladder is on a stable surface and that the base of the ladder is secure. It is also recommended to have someone hold the ladder while in use and to avoid overreaching or leaning to one side. Proper weight distribution and using appropriate torque forces are also important for safety.

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