Stuck in AM Radio Mode: Ranting and Raving on the Airwaves

[seycyrus]

No, I like racial jokes. I really like racial jokes. But I like them when they are told by someone who is funny: like, Russel Peters.

A joke is funny because of the way you say it. The way he was talking about the treasury being run by a korean grocery store owner wasnt funny. It was said as a statement, not in the form of a joke. The way he said it was flat out racist.

Oh, I SEE. *YOUR* definition of humor is the only one that is acceptable! Well, it's lame.

It was funny. It wasn't racist.

Korean store owners are known for their hard work and their ability to make their stores prosper from nothing to something!

Many people feel that a guy off the street with real experience might be able to do a better job than Geithner.

 

[seycyrus]

Funny how we never see liberal hate radio.

Err. that's because liberal talk shows FAIL.

They have no content, and try to get by with clever comments. Even their own demography tunes them out.

 

[seycyrus]

...
... or have they been brain washed by the endless barrage of lies?

Wait, I thought we were talking about conservative radio, not the mass media!

That was the point that obviously eluded you. I am guessing that it is most of them, which is anecdotally supported by the numbers.

NO, it didn't elude me. It was just such an obvious point to make that the fact that it was brought up amazed me.

I reject your premise about it being "hate radio". It is sometimes useful to allow the use of the term in order to facilitate discussion, but on a definitive level, I reject it.

The only good to come of it is that they may have destroyed the Republican party

So your desire to see the destruction of the Republican party is behind all oppositon to anything that supports the Republican party. No surprise to me, but it is nice to see that you are coming to accept this fact.

... And even now, they rant against doing anything to salvage the economy

No, they rant against doing *certain* things. They support doing certain other things. They like, have their own opinion.

when they have been the cheerleaders for the path to destruction.

Oh please comrade! Don't criminalize people for voicing an opinion.

 

[JasonRox]

You really didn't read a word I said, did you?

You're a communist from the USSR.

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[Cyrus]

Oh, I SEE. *YOUR* definition of humor is the only one that is acceptable! Well, it's lame.

It was funny. It wasn't racist.

Korean store owners are known for their hard work and their ability to make their stores prosper from nothing to something!

Many people feel that a guy off the street with real experience might be able to do a better job than Geithner.

Yeahhhhhh...no, sorry. This whole "there known to make something from nothing!" is a crock to justify his remarks. Adding insult to injury, making fun of his name being 'ping chang chong' isn't funny either.

Difference between us:
I find racial humor funny.
You find racist humor funny.

 

[NBAJam100]

Ive noticed 2 things I would like to point out:

1.) Cyrus loves drawing lines

2.) No one hates republicans more than Ivan. Even if the republicans were to end world hunger, Ivan would still have a gripe.

 

[DaveC426913]

I find racial humor funny.
You find racist humor funny.

They are one and the same. Zeroing in on racial stereotypes for a laugh. Granted, some cliches are more tolerable than others, and some are funny or not - but those are entirely subjective calls and don't stand up to principle.
(I too find racial humour funny, but I recognize the hypocracy and live with it.)

 

[Cyrus]

Ive noticed 2 things I would like to point out:

1.) Cyrus loves drawing lines

2.) No one hates republicans more than Ivan. Even if the republicans were to end world hunger, Ivan would still have a gripe.

Old age.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Ive noticed 2 things I would like to point out:

2.) No one hates republicans more than Ivan. Even if the republicans were to end world hunger, Ivan would still have a gripe.

Not true. But as a former Republican, I do hate what has become of party and what these pseudo-conservatives [aka neocons] have done to the country; most of all, for their rape of the Constitution.

I do despise the likes of Limbaugh for the garbage he promotes. I also think people like Savage are the scum of the earth.

I guess its like being an alcoholic. Once you have seen the light, you have zero tolerance for the warped mentality that goes with the addiction.

Let there be no doubt: The Republicans have earned my disdain. It wasn't always like this. You can thank the Bush family, Cheney, Rummy, Gonzo, and the rest of the Bush clowns for making a lifetime enemy of me. But that doesn't mean that I hate all Republicans. I just think they are mostly clueless - hopelessly addicted to a failed ideology that amounts to little more [these days] than liberal bashing; decrying the shadows and ghosts of their imaginations.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

btw, I'm an Independent, not a Democrat. Before Bush Jr. came along, I was pretty much split between the two parties - Daddy Bush converted me from a republican to an Independent. Perhaps that gives you some idea of just how much trouble the Republicans are in right now. Imagine how the die-hard liberals feel. But I guess the last election made this all pretty clear [see ratio of Dems to Reps in the House]. Obviously I'm not alone as a disgusted and outraged Independent.

 

[BoomBoom]

Freedom of speech is much too valuable to be messed with in any way, IMO.

Perhaps what we should do though is teach our kids how to be discriminate thinkers and not believe everything they hear, see, or read. Maybe have such a class in high school or something be mandatory. A healthy dose of skeptic thinking will never steer you wrong.

For every false claim made by someone from the media, there are probably numerous sources calling them out on it. The system has it's own checks and balances in a sense.

Censorship sucks!

 

[Cyrus]

Freedom of speech is much too valuable to be messed with in any way, IMO.

Perhaps what we should do though is teach our kids how to be discriminate thinkers and not believe everything they hear, see, or read. Maybe have such a class in high school or something be mandatory. A healthy dose of skeptic thinking will never steer you wrong.

For every false claim made by someone from the media, there are probably numerous sources calling them out on it. The system has it's own checks and balances in a sense.

Censorship sucks!

Provided you watch those other news sources.

 

[BoomBoom]

Provided you watch those other news sources.

Well, that's why I brought up the point that maybe we should be teaching kids before they reach adulthood how to be more discriminating in their thought process. Teach them to verify things before they outright believe them as facts. I assume a number of religious groups would be all up in arms about such a thing. "How dare you teach my child to question the truth!"

In the end, people will tend to believe what they want to believe, especially when it agrees with their personally held ideologies. But to start telling people what they can and cannot say would be leading down a slippery slope that heads to a bad place...essenstially destroying everything that freedom really stands for.

 

[Cyrus]

Well, that's why I brought up the point that maybe we should be teaching kids before they reach adulthood how to be more discriminating in their thought process. Teach them to verify things before they outright believe them as facts. I assume a number of religious groups would be all up in arms about such a thing. "How dare you teach my child to question the truth!"

In the end, people will tend to believe what they want to believe, especially when it agrees with their personally held ideologies. But to start telling people what they can and cannot say would be leading down a slippery slope that heads to a bad place...essenstially destroying everything that freedom really stands for.

Mmm, I don't buy this slippery slope argument. It's a weak argument made because, as you know, if we let this happen then before you know it guys will be having gay sex with athiest communist donkies infront of the children.

What 'slippery slope' - seriously.

 

[Count Iblis]

The problem in the US is that there isn't a good educational system. People who haven't had a good education are vulnerable to being indoctrinated. This is why you have millions of people who swallow everything that Limbaugh says as gospel.

 

[turbo]

The problem in the US is that there isn't a good educational system. People who haven't had a good education are vulnerable to being indoctrinated. This is why you have millions of people who swallow everything that Limbaugh says as gospel.

That's quite true. Much of our educational system is geared toward indoctrination, and doesn't accent critical thinking. Even in colleges, students are indoctrinated and there is the mind-set that the students shouldn't entertain independent thought until they have mastered "the basics". Our society is much the same, with various factions appealing to "authority" (of the proper idealogical mindset) to bolster their political opinions, while relieving citizens of the need to think for themselves. We should remember that years after it was proven that Iraq had no role in 9/11 countless millions of Americans accepted it as gospel.

 

[BoomBoom]

Mmm, I don't buy this slippery slope argument. It's a weak argument made because, as you know, if we let this happen then before you know it guys will be having gay sex with athiest communist donkies infront of the children.

What 'slippery slope' - seriously.

That is your argument against the slippery slope concept? That's pretty weak in itself...

If government starts controlling what we can and cannot say, I can easily see statements that are critical of the government being somewhere on the list down the line as it becomes more acceptable for them to do so. Also, people are always pushing for censorship when they feel someone made an offensive statement, but it is our freedom of speech that holds them at bay. Once it's ok for government to censor speech, soon they could start getting their way. Why people think they have some sort of right not to be offended is beyond me...as a free person, I have the right to offensive.

I may be somewhat of an extremist on this subject because I also don't think that curse words or nudity should be censored either (at least not by government). It just seems stupid that we ban a word while allowing a synomym of that word with the exact same meaning.

I am just as disgusted by comments made by Limbaugh, Hannity, and the likes as any good liberal, but I also believe very strongly that they absolutely have the right to say it.

 

[Count Iblis]

... but I also believe very strongly that they absolutely have the right to say it.

I agree. But something is wrong if so many people actually do say these things and that there are a lot of radio programs where these things are said. That points to an uneducated public.

 

[NBAJam100]

Not true. But as a former Republican, I do hate what has become of party and what these pseudo-conservatives [aka neocons] have done to the country; most of all, for their rape of the Constitution.

I do despise the likes of Limbaugh for the garbage he promotes. I also think people like Savage are the scum of the earth.

I guess its like being an alcoholic. Once you have seen the light, you have zero tolerance for the warped mentality that goes with the addiction.

Let there be no doubt: The Republicans have earned my disdain. It wasn't always like this. You can thank the Bush family, Cheney, Rummy, Gonzo, and the rest of the Bush clowns for making a lifetime enemy of me. But that doesn't mean that I hate all Republicans. I just think they are mostly clueless - hopelessly addicted to a failed ideology that amounts to little more [these days] than liberal bashing; decrying the shadows and ghosts of their imaginations.

Well put. I must say, I've always pictured you as some sort of... liberal hippie or something haha.

 

[russ_watters]

There is no slope here, slippery or otherwise. There is just a line. What you hear on the radio is covered by feedom of speech if it isn't an overt threat or obscene, just like freedom of speech anywhere else. Period.

 

[russ_watters]

I must say, I've always pictured you as some sort of... liberal hippie or something haha.

Ivan, a hippie? I'm shocked you would think that!

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Yeahhhhhh...no, sorry. This whole "there known to make something from nothing!" is a crock to justify his remarks. Adding insult to injury, making fun of his name being 'ping chang chong' isn't funny either.

Difference between us:
I find racial humor funny.
You find racist humor funny.

Cyrus, I think you're just in a bad mood.
Here..
(NSFW)
...listen to some Notorious MSG.

 

[Cyrus]

lol, wtf was that?

 

[maze]

Cyrus what is your position on this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE52P60220090326

 

[DaveC426913]

Cyrus what is your position on this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE52P60220090326

What is this? "Poke the Growling Dog" day?

Hey Cyrus, look over here behind these shrubs, a political commentator who thinks the economy is all the fault of the Chinese. Whatcha going to do?

 

[Cyrus]

Could you summarize the article please.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

lol, wtf was that?

They have more. FOB 4 Life is one of my favourites.

 

[maze]

UN has passed a non-binding resolution making it illegal to criticize religion (presumably because such criticism would be "offensive" to religious people).

 

[jacksonpeeble]

They're good theories, but they've been shown to have flaws (in terms of corruptibility) when put into practice. What we really should be trying to show is how capitalism may be similar in terms of "corruptability".

We need a new system, really. Democracy has a neat element of freedom to it that ensures a lot of securities, but the majority can be easily fooled and capitalism allows lobbying to manufacture "common sense" with $$$.

Understood, and agreed. Obviously communism/socialism isn't practical because there will always be people that prefer to be on top of the system, and people like to be rewarded. However, it certainly is a nice idea conceptually.

The two-party system will never fall as long as the United States exists.

 

[Cyrus]

UN has passed a non-binding resolution making it illegal to criticize religion (presumably because such criticism would be "offensive" to religious people).

I seriously doubt they made it illegal to 'criticize religion', I am sure there is a much more specific thing about the criticism they made, yes?

I see your point; however, I fail to see how its relevant to my point.

 

[Moonbear]

I wanted to quote this to make a rather interesting point.



In the 2004 Presidential election, 122 million people voted. Bush ended up with about a 30% approval rating by the end of his second term of office. 30% of 122 million is 37 million, which gives us about the same number of people listening to the shows listed above. It would reeeeeeeally be interesting to know how this maps to Bush's popularity. I would bet that it maps nearly 1:1.

I really doubt those are all unique, non-overlapping listening audiences. I'd be willing to bet that the same listeners follow a lot of those shows. I'd also be willing to bet there are a good number of liberals listening to those shows for the shock value, or just to gripe about them in their blogs later.

Still, I'm laughing seeing such a long thread about Cyrus being stuck with AM channels. I'd have turned off the radio before listening to more than a few minutes of any of those shows.

 

[Cyrus]

PS, I still have not figured how to get back to FM!

My manly ways means I have to listen to CD or IPOD.

I'm being 100% serious when I say I can't turn the AM radio off because I can't believe my ears.

 

[Moonbear]

I take it that the suggestions to push the pre-set buttons more than once didn't work? Have you tried pushing and holding other buttons? What type of car do you have? Maybe someone with the same kind will know how to work the radio...it shouldn't be THAT hard!

 

[turbo]

Unless you have a no-name sound-system installed by some nameless shop on the corner of "thump, thump" and "pimp your ride" we should be able help. Post the make and model of your vehicle and someone here will jump in, for sure. Do not say Maserati GT or I will ask jimmysnyder to send some friends from the Republic of South Jersey to visit and gently choke you until you can hear FM more clearly.

 

[Cyrus]

Unless you have a no-name sound-system installed by some nameless shop on the corner of "thump, thump" and "pimp your ride" we should be able help. Post the make and model of your vehicle and someone here will jump in, for sure. Do not say Maserati GT or I will ask jimmysnyder to send some friends from the Republic of South Jersey to visit and gently choke you until you can hear FM more clearly.

I have the booklet, it's sitting in my basement right now. And I'll have you know I had a big time audio installer do it, with years of expert experience and charges top dollar - I did it .