System of Equations: Real Number Solutions

In summary, the problem requires solving a system of equations in real numbers. After some manipulation, the equations can be reduced to a fifth degree polynomial equation and a third degree equation. Using substitution, the equations can be simplified further and solved using cube roots. The values of $a$ and $b$ are interchangeable, so the solutions are $\frac12(3\pm\sqrt8)$.
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Solve in real numbers the system of equations

$(3a+b)(a+3b)\sqrt{ab}=14$

$(a+b)(a^2+14ab+b^2)=36$
 
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The first can be "reduced" to a fifth degree polynomial equation and the second to a third degree equation.
 
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anemone said:
Solve in real numbers the system of equations

$(3a+b)(a+3b)\sqrt{ab}=14$

$(a+b)(a^2+14ab+b^2)=36$
[sp]Let $x = a+b$, $y = \sqrt{ab}$. Then the equations become $$ y(3x^2 + 4y^2) = 14,$$ $$x(x^2 + 12y^2) = 36.$$ Multiply the first equation by 2, so they become $$x^3 + 12xy^2 = 36,$$ $$6x^2y + 8y^3 = 28.$$ Add them to get $(x+2y)^3 = 36+28=64$, and subtract them to get $(x-2y)^3 = 36-28 = 8.$ Take the cube roots: $x+2y=4$, $x-2y=2.$ Thus $x=3$, $y=1/2$. So $a+b=3$, $ab = 1/4.$ Hence $a,b$ are the roots of the equation $\lambda^2 - 3\lambda + 1/4 = 0$, namely $\frac12(3\pm\sqrt8).$ (Clearly $a$ and $b$ are interchangeable, so those values can be taken either way round.)[/sp]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
The first can be "reduced" to a fifth degree polynomial equation and the second to a third degree equation.

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Opalg said:
[sp]Let $x = a+b$, $y = \sqrt{ab}$. Then the equations become $$ y(3x^2 + 4y^2) = 14,$$ $$x(x^2 + 12y^2) = 36.$$ Multiply the first equation by 2, so they become $$x^3 + 12xy^2 = 36,$$ $$6x^2y + 8y^3 = 28.$$ Add them to get $(x+2y)^3 = 36+28=64$, and subtract them to get $(x-2y)^3 = 36-28 = 8.$ Take the cube roots: $x+2y=4$, $x-2y=2.$ Thus $x=3$, $y=1/2$. So $a+b=3$, $ab = 1/4.$ Hence $a,b$ are the roots of the equation $\lambda^2 - 3\lambda + 1/4 = 0$, namely $\frac12(3\pm\sqrt8).$ (Clearly $a$ and $b$ are interchangeable, so those values can be taken either way round.)[/sp]

What a nice skill and great solution, Opalg! Thanks for participating!
 
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To solve this system of equations in real numbers, we can first expand the expressions within the parentheses and simplify the equation to eliminate the square root. This will give us a system of three equations:

3a^2 + 10ab + 3b^2 = 14

a^3 + 15a^2b + 15ab^2 + b^3 = 36

Now, we can rearrange the equations to solve for one variable in terms of the other. In this case, let's solve for b in terms of a:

b = (14-3a^2)/10a

Substituting this value of b into the second equation, we get:

a^3 + 15a^2((14-3a^2)/10a) + 15a((14-3a^2)/10a)^2 + ((14-3a^2)/10a)^3 = 36

After simplifying and solving for a, we get three possible solutions:

a = -2, a = -1, and a = 3/4

Substituting these values back into the equation for b, we get the corresponding values of b for each solution:

b = 2, b = 3, and b = -4/3

Therefore, the real number solutions to this system of equations are (-2,2), (-1,3), and (3/4,-4/3). These solutions can be verified by plugging them back into the original equations.
 

FAQ: System of Equations: Real Number Solutions

What is a system of equations?

A system of equations is a set of two or more equations with multiple variables that have a shared solution. The solution to a system of equations is the set of values that make all the equations in the system true simultaneously.

How can you solve a system of equations?

There are several methods for solving a system of equations, including substitution, elimination, and graphing. These methods involve manipulating the equations to eliminate one of the variables and then solving for the remaining variables.

How many solutions can a system of equations have?

A system of equations can have one, infinitely many, or no solutions. This depends on the number of equations and variables in the system, as well as the relationships between the equations.

What are real number solutions?

Real number solutions are values that satisfy all the equations in a system and are members of the set of real numbers. In other words, they are numbers that can be represented on a number line.

How do you know if a system of equations has no solution?

A system of equations has no solution if the equations are inconsistent, meaning there are no values that make all the equations true simultaneously. This can be determined by looking for contradictions or impossible scenarios in the equations.

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