Tension in a Two-Crate System on a Frictionless Surface

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babaypenguin88
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Homework Statement
Two crates, one with mass 4 kg and the other with mass 6 kg, sit on the frictionless surface of a frozen pond, connected by a light rope. A woman wearing golf shoes pulls horizontally on the 6 kg create with a force F that gives the crate an acceleration of 2.50n m/s^2 what is tension
Relevant Equations
F=ma
for 4kg box:
Fx = T
m1a=T
(4) (2.50) = T
10 = T

for 6 kg box: Fx = Fa - T
m2a = m2a - T
15 = 15 - T
15-15 = T
0 = T

I assumed the tension would be the same for both boxes, they are supposed to be, so what did I do wrong and is the answer 10 or zero?
 
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What are your definitions of Fx and Fa in both cases?
 
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Orodruin said:
What are your definitions of Fx and Fa in both cases?
fa = force applied
fx = sum of forces in the x
 
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babaypenguin88 said:
fa = force applied
fx = sum of forces in the x
You ought to have a diagram of the scenario. There are two boxes, hence two objects with forces on them.
 
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babaypenguin88 said:
fa = force applied
fx = sum of forces in the x
Then Fa is not necessarily equal to ma. Only the net force is equal to ma.
 
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babaypenguin88 said:
for 6 kg box: Fx = Fa - T
m2a = m2a - T
I think you have a typo in your 2nd equation. You can't have both ##F_x## and ##F_a## equal to ##m_2a##.
 
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Further to @Mister T's remark, your equation for the 4kg block has only one unknown, T, whereas that for the 6kg block has/should have two, F and T. Consequently the second equation is only of interest if you wish to find F.
 
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haruspex said:
Further to @Mister T's remark, your equation for the 4kg block has only one unknown, T, whereas that for the 6kg block has/should have two, F and T. Consequently the second equation is only of interest if you wish to find F.
ok thanks you
 

FAQ: Tension in a Two-Crate System on a Frictionless Surface

What is the basic setup of a two-crate system on a frictionless surface?

A two-crate system on a frictionless surface typically consists of two crates placed next to each other on a smooth, horizontal plane. When a force is applied to one crate, it causes both crates to accelerate due to the lack of friction, allowing us to analyze the tension in the connecting rope or cable between the crates.

How do you calculate the tension in the rope connecting the two crates?

The tension in the rope can be calculated using Newton's second law. If we denote the masses of the two crates as m1 and m2 and the applied force as F, the total mass of the system is (m1 + m2). The acceleration (a) of the system can be found using the formula a = F / (m1 + m2). Once the acceleration is known, the tension (T) in the rope can be calculated by considering the forces acting on either crate. For crate 2, T = m2 * a, where a is the acceleration calculated earlier.

What role does the mass of each crate play in determining tension?

The mass of each crate directly affects the tension in the rope. A heavier crate will result in greater tension in the rope when the same force is applied. This is because the acceleration of the system is dependent on the total mass, and the tension must balance the force needed to accelerate the mass of the second crate. Thus, as the mass of either crate increases, the tension in the rope also increases, provided the applied force remains constant.

Does the length of the rope affect the tension in the system?

No, the length of the rope does not affect the tension in a frictionless system. Tension is a force that is transmitted through the rope, and it is determined by the masses of the crates and the applied force. The length of the rope only affects the distance between the two crates but does not influence the tension itself, as long as the rope is massless and inextensible.

What happens to the tension if one crate is removed from the system?

If one crate is removed from the system, the tension in the rope becomes zero, provided the remaining crate is not being acted upon by any other forces. This is because there is no longer a second mass to create a force that the rope needs to transmit. If the remaining crate is still subjected to an external force, it will simply accelerate without any tension in the rope since there is no other mass to pull against.

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