B The physical properties of diamonds: no melting point?

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Diamonds do not have a traditional melting point because they transition directly from solid to gas through sublimation, bypassing the liquid phase. When heated, diamonds can sublimate into gaseous carbon, which, upon cooling, does not revert to diamond but instead forms charcoal. At standard atmospheric pressure, carbon does not exist in a liquid state, only as solid or vapor. Significant pressure is required to achieve a liquid form of carbon, with its triple point occurring at around 100 atmospheres. This discussion highlights the unique physical properties of diamonds and the conditions necessary for carbon to exist in different states.
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I had heard an opinion from my high school teacher, but I can't understand??

"An experimental record of a French scientist.
He heats the diamond and sublimates it. After cooling, it turns back to solid barbecue carbon.
In this case, although there is a physical transition, the substance seems to be a chemical change.
This is just my personal opinion: the physical properties of diamonds are not suitable for describing as melting point"

What?
No melting point how it transition??
 
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Sublimation means it went directly from solid to gaseous state. There was no liquid state of the carbon in this case. Upon cooling of the gaseous carbon, it didn't make a diamond crystal, but rather simply charcoal. ## \\ ## I think there might exist a liquid form of carbon, but it would require enormous pressures to exist in the liquid state.
 
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Charles Link said:
Sublimation means it went directly from solid to gaseous state. There was no liquid state of the carbon in this case.
get it,but is it good for describing diamond as no melting point?
 
h_hin said:
get it,but is it good for describing diamond as no melting point?
See my added comment above about the liquid state. At 1.0 atmosphere, there is only a solid to vapor transition. The same is true for carbon dioxide. I believe ## CO_2 ## requires about 5 atmospheres in order to produce a liquid state. Let me see if I can get a phase diagram of ## CO_2 ##: https://chem.libretexts.org/Textbook_Maps/General_Chemistry/Map:_General_Chemistry_(Petrucci_et_al.)/12:_Intermolecular_Forces:_Liquids_And_Solids/12.4:_Phase_Diagrams ## \\ ## See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon It lists the triple point of Carbon as 10.8 MPa which is about 100 atmospheres of pressure. For pressures below this, there is no liquid phase of carbon.
 
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Charles Link said:
See my added comment above about the liquid state. At 1.0 atmosphere, there is only a solid to vapor transition. The same is true for carbon dioxide. I believe ## CO_2 ## requires about 5 atmospheres in order to produce a liquid state. Let me see if I can get a phase diagram of ## CO_2 ##: https://chem.libretexts.org/Textbook_Maps/General_Chemistry/Map:_General_Chemistry_(Petrucci_et_al.)/12:_Intermolecular_Forces:_Liquids_And_Solids/12.4:_Phase_Diagrams ## \\ ## See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon It lists the triple point of Carbon as 10.8 MPa which is about 100 atmospheres of pressure. For pressures below this, there is no liquid phase of carbon.

okay get it all,thanks!
 
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