The Principle of Invariant Light Speed

In summary, while reading Special Theory of Relativity from Feynman Lectures, I fell into the confusion about invariant speed of light. The universal speed limit, which light obeys because it is mass-less, is a postulate of Special Relativity and empirically demonstrated fact. Ok.. Forget about the value of speed of the person... Can you now explain why the speed of light is INVARIANT of the motion of that person? We don't know why the speed of light is invariant. It was postulated by Einstein when he developed Special and General Relativity and evidence supports the belief that it is invariant, but we don't know why this is so.
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AbhiFromXtraZ
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While reading Special Theory of Relativity from Feynman Lectures, I fell into the confusion about invariant speed of light.
What I'm asking for is an explanation about this.
No matter whether physical explanation or mathematical.
So my question is Why the speed of light is same for a person at rest and for a person moving with the speed of light?
 
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First off, there is no such thing as a "person moving with the speed of light". You can, theoretically, move very close to the speed of light but you can't get there.

The universal speed limit, which light obeys because it is mass-less, is a postulate of Special Relativity and and empirically demonstrated fact.
 
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Ok.. Forget about the value of speed of the person...
Can you now explain why the speed of light is INVARIANT of the motion of that person?
 
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We don't know why the speed of light is invariant. It was postulated by Einstein when he developed Special and General Relativity and evidence supports the belief that it is invariant, but we don't know why this is so. Like many things in physics, it simply is.
 
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AbhiFromXtraZ said:
Can you now explain why the speed of light is INVARIANT of the motion of that person?

Nobody knows "why" the speed of light is a constant in all inertial reference frames, it just is. It was a stipulation laid down by Einstein when he was developing SR that was based primarily on the constant value of the speed of light implied in Maxwell's equations. The constancy of the speed of light was also demonstrated experimentally by Michelson and Morley (M&M) 20 years prior to Einstein's development of SR, although Einstein had stated that he was unaware of the study at the time he wrote the seminal 1905 paper. See: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393337685/?tag=pfamazon01-20

We simply accept the constancy of the sped of light as fact today because the models developed around that stipulation predict accurately experimental measurements.

Edit: Drakkith beat me to it. I wasn't trying to be redundant
 
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This is one of the things you cannot explain. You can derive it, in a way, from simpler symmetry considerations about space and time: Assuming that space is Euclidean and time is homogeneous for any observer in an inertial frame, and that the principle of special relativity is valid, you'll find (up to trivial equivalence) two symmetry groups: the Galilei group and the Poincare group, implying the Galilei-Newton space time (a fiber bundle) and Einstein-Minkowski space time (a pseudo Euclidean affine manifold). Which structure describes nature best, is an empirical question, and as is well known nowadays, Einstein-Minkowski space time is the winner.

Even this is an approximation, however! When you need to take into account gravity, which is the case in astronomy and cosmology, then you must extend the description of space time to a pseudo-Riemannian manifold and use Einstein's General Relativity.
 
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Ok.. Now I get it... Thanks to all..
 
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You might also look at this entry in the FAQ section at the top of this forum:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=534862
 
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FAQ: The Principle of Invariant Light Speed

What is the Principle of Invariant Light Speed?

The Principle of Invariant Light Speed, also known as the Principle of Relativity, states that the speed of light in a vacuum is a constant and is independent of the relative motion of the source or observer.

Who proposed the Principle of Invariant Light Speed?

The Principle of Invariant Light Speed was first proposed by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity in 1905.

How does the Principle of Invariant Light Speed affect our understanding of space and time?

The Principle of Invariant Light Speed revolutionized our understanding of space and time by introducing the concept of time dilation and length contraction. It also laid the foundation for the famous equation E=mc² which relates mass and energy.

Is the Principle of Invariant Light Speed universally accepted?

Yes, the Principle of Invariant Light Speed is one of the fundamental principles of modern physics and is widely accepted by the scientific community. It has been extensively tested and verified through various experiments and observations.

What are the implications of the Principle of Invariant Light Speed?

The Principle of Invariant Light Speed has many implications, including the breakdown of classical mechanics at high speeds, the existence of black holes, and the possibility of time travel. It also forms the basis for our current understanding of the universe and plays a crucial role in modern technologies such as GPS and satellite communication.

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