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OK, I think it's time to lock this thread. Jesse has done a fine job of presenting the mainstream view, but ultimately, by our formal written guidelines, Physics Forums is a place to explain mainstream science, not to debate it.
I believe that the explanation has been already done by Jesse in his past responses, and that this thread has crossed the line between a discussion and a "debate" - in particular a rather nonproductive debate.
I believe that the explanation has been already done by Jesse in his past responses, and that this thread has crossed the line between a discussion and a "debate" - in particular a rather nonproductive debate.