http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071106/wl_nm/iraq_dcReuters (BAGHDAD) said:Nine Iranians being held in Iraq would be released soon, the U.S. military said on Tuesday, just days after U.S. officials signaled a possible change in approach by noting positive Iranian developments in Iraq.
No.Perham said:aren't all these evidences came from Israeli media?!
That last sentence makes it self-evident that you have been fed much state propaganda. In Israel we don't have children's shows like you have in Iran.Perham said:you're lucky that we don't have powerful media propaganda like yours here. 'cause what I see here from Israel, is so dark that I can't even think that they are humans doing these to Palestinian people.
Unfortunately, your country uses proxies to fight its wars - how many more Lebanese, Palestinians and Israelis must die for Iran's fundamental regime?Perham said:those who want to fight, will fight, and we (normal people) are going to die in fight for more power and money that aren't going to be ours.
What would you change it to?Perham said:THIS SYSTEM IS OUR ENEMY. the world's leading system should be changed as it's far from being complete. perhaps it's time to experience world war III. can't you see it coming?
First, Palestinians are "dying for themselves": Palestinians are torturing and killing other Palestinians - even http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200706/s1948200.htm. The Lebanese are killing Palestinians too (shelling refugee camps etc.) as well as Red Cross workers.Perham said:well, if you stop killing Palestinians or Lebanese they won't die for themselves!
I've already proved Iran's destabilizing of this region.Perham said:and surely it's not Iran's fault.
A terrific example - the massacre of Sabra and Shatila was actually carried out by the Lebanese Forces, yet you're certain it was carried out by Israel... Have you ever heard of the Hama massacre?Perham said:and of course we all know the slaughter of sabra and shatila.
I believe this is a Farsi expression: if four people say you're drunk, go to sleep. EDIT: seems it's of Romanian origin.Perham said:(although this is not all the facts, but I couldn't find a better source in a internet controlled by israeli money and power)
I didn't meant from israel country, the Israeli media even contains BBC and CNN!
The veto right makes as much sense as the "one nation, one vote" rule - the consequences of which are felt everywhere there is no veto power - such as the UN human rights council:Perham said:I would definitely erase the veto right, as it's making some countries superior to some others. then you would lose a powerful tool to destroy nations.
Countries shouldn't love the world, they should seek the best interests of their inhabitants.Perham said:the country that rose from ashes of anger and hate, can't love the world.
There is nothing to uncover, unlike yourself I am being genuine. "Miseducating the gentiles"? You're either as Jewish as a ham and cheese sandwich, a bigot, or both - in any case you're making a great case for Zionism.sneez said:Yonoz, the only destabilizing nation of the world is israel (and its power over US). You live in delusions (which I know you only pretend to miseducate the gentiles). If you ever to decide to grip reality you should read "Zionism the real enemy of the jews" to stop misrepresenting the educated jews of israel. As a jew myself, I urge you to stop your propagandist work here. I have uncovered you already and many ppl here already see through you as I do.
There is nothing I want more than to feel safe in my own home. Though I see the Iranian leadership's actions as rational to a certain extent, I have personally encountered homicidal and suicidal irrationality on the part of those who seek to destroy me for my mere existence, and I know my history - so I know not to rely on that rationality lasting very long. I know of no way for a country to defend itself against a nuclear first strike other than keep its enemies from acquiring that capabilty. I don't believe the possibility of a nuclear first strike by fundamental Islamists is something that should be left to chance - this needn't be done by force, but seeing the reluctance of certain nations to aid in stopping the Iranian nuclear enrichment programme, it appears we will reach a point where it's the only option on the table. Even if Iran's leadership was to act rationaly and not use nuclear weapons, it's quite clear that it will continue to try to establish itself as a key regional player in the same way itself and its predecessors (Nasser, Hussein) have always done - gathering popular Arab support by confronting Israel. I realize that will be to the delight of people such as yourself and to the indifference of others, and that's why I'm convinced we should not count on anyone but ourselves. It's as obvious as the sun, as we say, that Iran will confront us again whether we like it or not. Might as well make sure they don't have the ability to destroy us with a single warhead.sneez said:We already got that there is nothing you want more than Iran attacked (by US). You and most importantly (isreali politcs) are manufacturing necessity for such an action, which is obvious going to bring down both of you down. Just postpone your learned hate and wish that one day you don't get taste of your own medicine of how you treat palestinians.
That's right Art. The Israeli government pays me to post on physicsforums.comArt said:Yonoz mentioned before he served with Israeli military intelligence. Enough said..
Herzl is your hero? I rest my case. We all get Herzl drilled in us at school don't you know? I got the israeli education about the gentiles and the rest don't worry. I am insider, and I will expose the zionists devils like yourself.You may want to furnish your library with books by someone who doesn't believe Israeli security services have nothing better to do than to kill Alan Johnston. I'd start with Judenstaat and Altneuland by one Theodor Herzl, though perhaps those uneducated about a state's duties to its citizens should start with the basics - Rousseau's Social Contract and Hobbes' Leviathan.
here is nothing I want more than to feel safe in my own home. Though I see the Iranian leadership's actions as rational to a certain extent, I have personally encountered homicidal and suicidal irrationality on the part of those who seek to destroy me for my mere existence, and I know my history - so I know not to rely on that rationality lasting very long. I know of no way for a country to defend itself against a nuclear first strike other than keep its enemies from acquiring that capabilty. I don't believe the possibility of a nuclear first strike by fundamental Islamists is something that should be left to chance - this needn't be done by force, but seeing the reluctance of certain nations to aid in stopping the Iranian nuclear enrichment programme, it appears we will reach a point where it's the only option on the table. Even if Iran's leadership was to act rationaly and not use nuclear weapons, it's quite clear that it will continue to try to establish itself as a key regional player in the same way itself and its predecessors (Nasser, Hussein) have always done - gathering popular Arab support by confronting Israel. I realize that will be to the delight of people such as yourself and to the indifference of others, and that's why I'm convinced we should not count on anyone but ourselves. It's as obvious as the sun, as we say, that Iran will confront us again whether we like it or not. Might as well make sure they don't have the ability to destroy us with a single warhead.
Oh, and leave the Palestinians out of this, they have enough problems as it is.
Look at you..., full of it.Might as well make sure they don't have the ability to destroy us with a single warhead.
You've made it very clear what you ought to be called.sneez said:Zionists like you make me what other zionists call sel-hating jew.
Maybe you should invite them to Tehran, I know of this conference they'd love to attend.Perham said:when I see people understanding what you are doing, my hopes rise again.
I don't need to explain more, people understood your goal.
10000 of this kind of man, and the Earth will be destroyed completely!
You surprise me. I thought it was a labour of love.Yonoz said:That's right Art. The Israeli government pays me to post on physicsforums.com
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071108/ap_on_re_af/interpol_iranAssociated Press said:Interpol put an ex-Iranian intelligence chief, a former leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, three other Iranians and a Lebanese militant on its most-wanted list Wednesday for a 1994 bombing that killed 85 people at a Jewish center in Argentina.
The international coordinating agency announced the move after delegates at its general assembly sided with Argentine prosecutors and turned back a lobbying blitz by Iranian envoys trying to avoid having their country linked to Argentina's worst terrorist attack.
The dispute was steeped in geopolitical drama at a time of high tension between Iran and the West over Tehran's suspect nuclear program and American claims that Iran is supplying weapons to insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan — claims that the Islamic Republic denies.
While Iranian envoys accused Israel and the United States of trying to use Interpol to taint Iran's image, most delegates agreed the case was purely a police matter. The result was a vote of 76-14 to add the names, with 26 abstentions, delegates said after the closed-door session.
In that case there's a good chance Israel will attempt to halt that development with force.Chronos said:Iran is attempting to develop nuclear weapons. They took their cue from North Korea. The world will deplore the effort, but not intervene. Once you have nukes and missile technology, you can no longer be ignored or forced to bow to the will of others.
We ran out of money, having bought the internet, CNN and BBC.Perham said:maybe, why not? maybe they set one Zionist per forum, to destroy discussions between west and east people. not impossible for you with that amount of money.
Your regime should stop developing nuclear weapons and stop destabilising Lebanon and the Palestinians.Perham said:so what? we should bow to your will?!
Yonoz said:We ran out of money, having bought the internet, CNN and BBC.
At the latest Doha Debate held at the prestigious Oxford Union in the United Kingdom on May 1st, two-thirds of the student audience approved a motion claiming that Israel's supporters are stifling Western debate about Israel's actions.
The event at the world famous debating society of Oxford University marked the first time the Doha Debates have been held outside Qatar.
The Debate took place amid mounting controversy over the role of the pro-Israel lobby in the United States and accusations that it has suppressed criticism of Israel - a charge that the lobby vigorously denies.
Norman Finkelstein, an American academic and a leading critic of Israeli policies, argued in favour of the motion claiming that the pro-Israel lobby sows confusion to avoid being held to account. The journalist and writer Andrew Cockburn also supported this view, claiming there are "red lines" in discussing Israel that no politician or journalist in the US would dare cross for fear of being demonised or driven out of public life.