Understanding Car-Wall Collisions: Net Force and Assumptions

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The discussion revolves around understanding the net force acting on a car during a collision with a wall. Participants emphasize the importance of Newton's Third Law, noting that the force exerted by the car on the wall is equal and opposite to the force the wall exerts on the car. The conversation highlights that the car comes to a complete stop upon impact, suggesting that the wall's mass prevents any noticeable movement, thus making the collision's effects negligible on a larger scale. Additionally, the concept of impulse and momentum change is introduced as a method to calculate average force during the collision. Overall, the key point is that the wall's reaction force is significant in understanding the dynamics of the collision.
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car-wall collision problem (urgent)

Homework Statement


What net force is acted upon the car by the wall during the collision. Explain your answer along with what assumptions you made.


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The Attempt at a Solution


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ywJ3WGpf0hw

This video is the example of the question. So I am not sure what the question mean by the net force acted upon the car.
 
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I'm not that great at this stuff, but what have you attempted so far?
You should start off by thinking of what equation to use and drawing a Free Body Diagram
Keep in mind Newton's Third law
 
There is no equations, its an explanation problem. The only thing i can come up with is the force the car exerts on the wall will be same exact but opposite force the wall exerts back to the car. So the momentum of the car and wall added together should be zero because from the video you can see the car stops right after crashing, and did not bounce back.
 
Right, maybe the car slams into the wall and comes to an immediate stop after traveling at a constant velocity and ending with a velocity of 0?
I think if it was equal and opposite the car would have bounced back--it didnt occur in this case.

"Either the wall is so massive that it accelerates/moves an imperceptible amount or it doesn't move at all, in which case the force of the collision actually acts on the entire planet - which is, obviously, so massive that the effects are negligible."

I havn't really gone over collision problems in my lectures yet. So I am not entirely sure :smile:
 
You see that the car comes to stop, and deformed during that time. The wall exerts a force that is opposite to the velocity of the car. If you know the time period Δt of the collision you can find the average force by using change of momentum = impulse : -mv=FΔt.

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