Using Lagrangian to derive the equation of motion

In summary, the conversation discusses deriving the equation of motion of a mass-spring-pulley system using Lagrange's equations. The mass m is connected to a spring of stiffness k through a string wrapped around a rigid pulley of radius R and mass moment of inertia I. The Lagrangian, L = T - V, is used to derive equations of motion for the generalized coordinates x and θ, with a constraint of x = rθ. The final equation of motion involves the partial derivatives of T and V with respect to x and θ, and incorporates the constraint to get a single equation.
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Homework Statement


derive the equation of motion of a mass-spring-pulley system using lagrange's equations. A mass m is connected to a spring of stiffness k, through a string wrapped around a rigid pulley of radius R and mass moment of inertia, I.

Homework Equations


kinetic energey
T = 1/2 (m)(x_dot) + 1/2 (I)(theta_dot)
potential energy
V = 1/2 k(R)(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


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sorry for the sideways picture... don't know why its doing that. but please help homework is due tomorrow morning! thanks!
 
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What is your Lagrangian? Without writing it down, you will not be able to derive the equations of motion.
It seems your generalized coordinates are x and θ. Is there a constraint relating the two?
 
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ts the second to last equation on the picture, with the partial derivatives to the respect of x. so ∂T/∂x⋅ - ∂T/∂x + ∂V/∂x = Q

and i believe there's a onstraint of x = rθ
 
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That's not the Lagrangian. The Lagrangian is L = T - V. What you have is the equation for generalized coordinate x. You need to write another such equation involving θ and apply the constraint relating x and θ to get a single equation of motion.
 

FAQ: Using Lagrangian to derive the equation of motion

What is Lagrangian?

Lagrangian is a mathematical function used in classical mechanics to describe the dynamics of a physical system. It is defined as the difference between the kinetic energy and potential energy of the system.

How is Lagrangian used to derive the equation of motion?

Lagrangian can be used in the principle of least action, where the equation of motion is derived by minimizing the action of the system. This involves finding the path that the system takes between two points in time that minimizes the action, which is the integral of the Lagrangian along the path.

What are the advantages of using Lagrangian over other methods?

One advantage is that Lagrangian takes into account all the forces acting on a system, making it more comprehensive than other methods. It also simplifies the equations of motion, making them easier to solve.

Are there any limitations to using Lagrangian to derive the equation of motion?

One limitation is that it is not suitable for all systems, particularly those with constraints or complex geometries. It also requires more advanced mathematical techniques, making it more challenging to apply in some cases.

Can Lagrangian be applied to quantum mechanics?

Yes, Lagrangian can be used in quantum mechanics to describe the behavior of particles in a quantum system. It is commonly used in the path integral formulation of quantum mechanics.

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