Variation of matter action under diffeomorphism (Carroll)

In summary, "Variation of matter action under diffeomorphism (Carroll)" discusses how the action of matter fields in a gravitational context transforms when subjected to diffeomorphisms, which are smooth transformations of the manifold. The paper emphasizes the importance of diffeomorphism invariance in general relativity and field theories, highlighting how the variation of the matter action leads to crucial equations of motion. Carroll explores the implications of these variations, linking them to the underlying geometric structure of spacetime and the conservation laws that arise from such symmetries.
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Queries on Carroll's derivation of matter action ## S_M ## under a diffeomorphism:

(Book B.23+4 Notes 5.35+6)

##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}} \delta g_{\mu\nu} = \frac{\delta S_{M}} {\delta g_{\mu\nu}} \left( 2 \nabla _{(\mu}V_{\nu)} \right) =\left( 2 \right) \frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}\nabla _{\mu}V_{\nu}##

He explains dropping the symmetrisation by symmetry of the fraction, but would the double contraction not do so irrespective of metric symmetry?Also (Book B.25 Notes 5.37)

##0 = \int d^{n}x \frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}\nabla _{\mu}V_{\nu} = -\int d^{n}x \sqrt{-g} V_{\nu}\nabla _{\mu}\left( \frac{1}{\sqrt{-g}}\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}} \right)##

Could someone explain the steps to get right hand side from left (of second equality)?

Please, thanks.
 
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For the first, ##A^{\mu \nu} B_{(\mu \nu )} = \frac{1}{2} A^{\mu \nu} (B_{\mu \nu} + B_{\nu \mu}) = \frac{1}{2}(A^{\mu \nu} + A^{\nu \mu}) B_{\mu \nu} = A^{(\mu \nu)} B_{\mu \nu}##
And if ##A^{\mu \nu}## is symmetric then ##A^{(\mu \nu)} = A^{\mu \nu}##.

Your second equality is integration by parts (note ##\nabla \sqrt{-g} = 0##).
 
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ergospherical said:
For the first, ##A^{\mu \nu} B_{(\mu \nu )} = \frac{1}{2} A^{\mu \nu} (B_{\mu \nu} + B_{\nu \mu}) = \frac{1}{2}(A^{\mu \nu} + A^{\nu \mu}) B_{\mu \nu} = A^{(\mu \nu)} B_{\mu \nu}##
And if ##A^{\mu \nu}## is symmetric then ##A^{(\mu \nu)} = A^{\mu \nu}##.
@ergospherical, thanks very much.

I wasn't doubting that logic, just wondering whether my application of index rules was shaky. It seemed to me that the combination of symmetry ## \nabla _{(\mu}V_{\nu)} ## with the dual contraction meant there was no need to rely on symmetry of the ##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}## term?
Or even, if ##A^{(\mu \nu)} = A^{\mu \nu}##, why not ## \nabla _{(\mu}V_{\nu)} = \nabla _{\mu}V_{\nu}## ?

EDIT: Oops, the last sentence highlighted my confusion (between notation and actual symmetry), so please ignore above queries and instead:

Is ##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}## effectively contravariant in the two indices, to conform to the summation convention? Is it as straightforward as ##\left( \delta g_{\mu\nu} \right)^{-1} = \delta g^{\mu\nu}## ?
ergospherical said:
Your second equality is integration by parts (note ##\nabla \sqrt{-g} = 0##).
For the absent antiderivative:

Is ##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}## a fraction with ##\delta S_{M} =0##,
or is it a single symbol, zeroed with boundary conditions,
or some other reason ? :oldsmile:
 
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chartery said:
Is ##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}## effectively contravariant in the two indices, to conform to the summation convention? Is it as straightforward as ##\left( \delta g_{\mu\nu} \right)^{-1} = \delta g^{\mu\nu}## ?
Downstairs indices in the denominator count as upstairs indices, yes.

For the second sentence you have to be careful. Remember ##\delta^{\mu}_{\nu} = g^{\mu \rho} g_{\rho \nu}##, and taking the variation ##0 = g^{\mu \rho} \delta g_{\rho \nu} + \delta g^{\mu \rho} g_{\rho \nu}## and hence ##\delta g^{\mu \nu} = -g^{\mu \rho} g^{\nu \sigma} \delta g_{\rho \sigma}##.

chartery said:
For the absent antiderivative:

Is ##\frac{\delta S_{M}}{\delta g_{\mu\nu}}## a fraction with ##\delta S_{M} =0##,
or is it a single symbol, zeroed with boundary conditions,
or some other reason ? :oldsmile:
You can turn it into
\begin{align*}
\int d^4 x \sqrt{-g} \nabla_{\mu} \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{-g}} \frac{\delta S_M}{\delta g_{\mu \nu}} V_{\nu} \right)
\end{align*}
And for any vector ##X^{\mu}## which vanishes sufficiently fast towards infinity then
\begin{align*}
\int d^4 x \sqrt{-g} \nabla_{\mu} X^{\mu} = \int d^4 x \partial_{\mu} (\sqrt{-g} X^{\mu}) = \int_{\partial} dS_{\mu} X^{\mu} \sqrt{-g} = 0
\end{align*}
by Stokes, where we used the divergence formula ##{X^{\mu}}_{;\mu} = (-g)^{-1/2} ((-g)^{1/2} X^{\mu})_{,\mu}## in the first equality.
 
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@ergospherical, again many thanks.

Self-taught, I realise I don't have enough knowledge of variational (and tensor) manipulations, but there does seem to be a lot of casually presupposed ability packed suddenly into that one bald equality in his notes !
 

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What is the variation of matter action under a diffeomorphism?

The variation of the matter action under a diffeomorphism refers to how the action, which is a functional describing the dynamics of matter fields in a spacetime, changes when the coordinates of the spacetime are transformed. This concept is crucial in understanding how physical laws remain invariant under such transformations.

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