Vector Space/Fields Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3))

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Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) is a field generated by elements of the form a + b*sqrt(2) + c*sqrt(3), where a, b, and c are in Q, and it has a dimension of 4. The discussion clarifies that the term d*sqrt(6) is not necessary for generating the field since sqrt(6) can be expressed as a combination of sqrt(2) and sqrt(3). The minimum polynomial p(x) = x^4 - 10x^2 + 1 confirms the dimension, and the basis is {1, sqrt(2), sqrt(3), sqrt(6)}. The distinction lies in how the field is generated versus the form of the field, emphasizing that only two elements are needed to generate the field as a vector space. Understanding this difference is crucial for recognizing the vector space's structure and dimension.
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Homework Statement


Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) is a field generated by elements of the form a + b*sqrt(2) + c*sqrt(3); where a,b,c are in Q. We are supposed to show that this is a vector space with dimension 4.

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So showing this is a vector space with dimension 4 will be easy for me to do, however I am not understanding why the problem above doesn't have a term d*sqrt(6)? For instance in a previous problem, I showed that
Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) = {a + b*sqrt(2) + c*sqrt(3) + d*sqrt(6) | a,b,c,d are in Q} is a field.
In Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) it is easy to show that the minimum polynomial is
p(x) = x^4 - 10x^2 + 1, so the vector space would have dimension 4 and a basis would be
{1, sqrt(2), sqrt(3), sqrt(6)}; so I would think that a d*sqrt(6) term should be included in the original problem? Might it be the case that the term c*sqrt(3) is of the form (c + d*sqrt(2))*sqrt(3)?
So could someone help me understand the difference in saying:
1.Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) is a field generated by elements of the form a + b*sqrt(2) + c*sqrt(3); where a,b,c are in Q.
and
2.Q(sqrt(2),sqrt(3)) = {a + b*sqrt(2) + c*sqrt(3) + d*sqrt(6) | a,b,c,d are in Q} is a field.
 
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Because you don't actually need the sqrt(6) term to generate the field - since any sqrt(6) term can be created from a combination of sqrt(3) and sqrt(2) terms. That is the key difference in the the 2 ways you state the field. One uses a set of elements to generate a field, one gives the form of the field generated by such a set. Consequently, the form of the field generated is what makes it obvious that it is a dimension 4 vector space.
 
To emphasize further, it would even be correct to say that \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{3}) is generated (as a field) by the two-element set \{ \sqrt{2}, \sqrt{3} \}. Of course, to generate it as a Q-vector space, you need four Q-linearly independent elements.
 
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