Volume of balloon - Derivative Question

The question is not very clear, so I am only guessing.In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the volume and radius of a spherical balloon as it increases with time, using the formula V=4/3pir^3 and dV/dt = 1000/(2t+1)^2. The conversation also mentions finding an expression for dr/dt in terms of r and t, solving the differential equation to obtain V in terms of t, finding the radius of the balloon at a specific time, and calculating the rate of increase of the radius. The methods of solving differential equations and separating variables are also briefly mentioned.
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Homework Statement


The volume of a spherical balloon of radius 'r' is Vcm^3, where V =4/3pir^3
The volume of the balloon increases with time 't' seconds according to the formula

dV/dt = 1000/(2t+1)^2, t>0

i) Find an expression in terms of 'r' and 't' for dr/dt
ii) Given that V = 0 and t = 0, solve the differential equation

dV/dt = 1000/(2t+1)^2, to obtain V in terms of t

iii) Find the radius of the balloon at time t =5

iv) Find the rate of increases of the radius of the balloon


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


i) Well we know dV/dt = (dv/dr) x (dr/dt)
Which means that I found dr/dt to be - (250/ (pir^2(2t+1)^2))

For the rest of them, i have no clue what to do. :S

Thanks in advance
 
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What methods of solving differential equations are you familiar with?
 
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voko said:
What methods of solving differential equations are you familiar with?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean? :S

Usually I just differentiate lol :S
 
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So you do not understand what a "differential equation" is?
 
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I do, but I'm not sure what kind of "methods" you are referring to
 
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Do you know how to solve diff. eq.'s in any way?
 
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Yeah, I know how to solve differential equations. As in product rule etc? And using the 2nd/3rd derivative? :S
 
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So why can't you solve the differential equation in ii)?
 
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I'm not sure what to do?

Am i just meant to differentiate it?

I thought you would have to integrate it so you would get the original equation?

I got V = 1000t/(2t+1)^2 + C

Is that it? :S
 
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You are given ## \frac {dV} {dt} ##. You need to find ## V(t) ##. Your answer to this is wrong, which you can easily check by differentiating your "solution".
 
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Oh ok,

So you integrate dv/dt to get V(t) which is -500/(2t+1)?
 
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Very well.
 
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How do i find the radius at t=5?

I know what dr/dt is but i can't integrate it because it has two variables :S
 
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Now that you have integrated the equation, you have volume as a function of time. Volume is directly related to the radius. Eh?
 
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By methods, voko meant if you can use integrating factor, Laplace transform, etc, I believe.

As for the dr/dt, have you tried separating the variables so you have the 'r' on one side and 't' on the other?
 
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OH, so because we now have V = -500/(2t+1)

We can let V = 4/3pir^3 and let t=5!

Ahaha, thanks for being so patient with me Voko! i truly appreciate it! :D

Ugh, So i got the radius as 2.21 from plugging the above in.

iv)
However when I sub this radius and time into dr/dt = (250/ (pir^2(2t+1)^2))
I'm not getting the right answer
:'(

What am i doing wrong?
 
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I hope you enjoyed your "aha!" moment :)
 
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Went from happiness to sadness within seconds. This world is too cruel.
 
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This is a physical forum, not philosophical. So you have to render your sadness in a way we can deal with - if we are supposed to.
 
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Lol, maybe you could help me with the last part? :( I did it but the answer book says I am wrong

So i got the radius as 2.21 from plugging V = 4/3pir^3 and t = 5 into V = -500/(2t+1)

iv)
However when I sub this radius and time into dr/dt = (250/ (pir^2(2t+1)^2))
I'm not getting the right answer
:'(

What am i doing wrong?
 
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iv) does not mention any time, so I suspect you have to find the function. Again, you know the volume as a function of time, so you should be able get the radius as a function of time, which I think you did in iii). If then you need to know its value at some particular time, just sub the time.
 

FAQ: Volume of balloon - Derivative Question

1. What is the formula for calculating the volume of a balloon?

The formula for calculating the volume of a balloon is V = 4/3 * π * r^3, where V is the volume and r is the radius of the balloon.

2. How does the volume of a balloon change as it is inflated?

The volume of a balloon increases as it is inflated because more air is being pumped into the balloon, causing it to expand and take up more space.

3. How can the derivative be used to find the rate of change of the volume of a balloon?

The derivative of the volume equation can be used to find the rate of change of the volume of a balloon. This rate of change represents how fast the volume is increasing or decreasing at a specific point in time.

4. How does the surface area of a balloon affect its volume?

The surface area of a balloon does not directly affect its volume. However, as the balloon is inflated, the surface area increases which in turn allows for a larger volume of air to be contained within the balloon.

5. How can the volume of a balloon be used in real-world applications?

The volume of a balloon can be used in various real-world applications, such as determining the amount of gas or air that can be contained in a balloon, or calculating the size of a balloon needed to lift a certain weight. It can also be used in the design and manufacturing of inflatable structures, like hot air balloons or inflatable buildings.

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