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russ_watters
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That's all correct.north said:bonds are important otherwise water would not exist.
and bonds in my chemistry book is ALL they talk about. the book does not tell us why the end result leads to water other than the bonds involved.there is a "cause"-the bonding of H2&O,the "effect"-liquid state, if this true then from here it follows that for this liquid state to exist then the bonds must remain intact.
That's called a "gas."so looking at this from a different perspective WHAT would happen if you were to slowly break this bond,slowly pull them apart? how would it's liquid state behave? it would cease to be, but just before the bonds break, what changes in the liquid's state form would happen?
"Why" is not a question science is really equipped to answer. That's just the way it works. If you're religious, you could choose to believe God designed the 3 phases of matter to work that way. Its not relevant to the question of HOW it works though - and the explanation given (which, it appears you understand, its just that it isn't satisfying to you for some reason).once the liquid ceases to be then slowly bring them back together so that,at minute increments,the liquid state forms again and repeat this until we can see precisely what happens. just keep going back and forth,in this way we could see why the bonding of H2&O brings forth a liquid state in the first place.
"What burns"? Hydrogen burns in the presence of oxygen. I've answered it a number of times now - you just aren't accepting that that is all that's going on. I can't help you with that.where this "meaning" comes from i don't know,it's as I've said before a "DEEPER UNDERSTANDING" oh i know more is going on but it's ALL related to bonds and with geometry,temperature,electronics,pressure etc. and obviously what I'm asking must be beyond all this because the question that I've asked has not been answered and neither is the question "what burns" when they get together,for you have not answered it still as of yet. you brought it up but fail to give an explanation,i can't help but think that you don't really know the answer.
No. You've asked basic questions that have been answered, a handful of meaningless questions, some unanswerable questions, and some irrelevant questions. If I accomplish anything here, helping you see the difference would be key.as for what I'm ready for or not ready for, i can't be doing to bad since I've asked a fundamental question that as of yet can not answered!
I'm sorry, but the reason you are failing chemistry is you refuse to look at it from the inside. If you can't understand something, you can't know its wrong or incomplete. You must get a complete understanding of the known meaning before you can look for deeper one. That should be obvious - how can you know what "deeper" is unless you have a more basic explanation from which to reference it. How deep is a pool that is 3 feet deeper?sometimes someone looking in from the outside or someone within but stepping back a bit can see things others don't. because it can be easy to miss the obvious or if not obvious then a different perspective.
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