What Are the Velocities of Protons After a 10GeV Elastic Collision?

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In a 10GeV elastic collision between a moving proton and a stationary proton, the problem involves calculating the velocities of both protons after the collision, with one proton deflecting at a 45-degree angle. Initial energy is given as 10.938 GeV, but attempts to solve using standard equations yield incorrect results, indicating a misunderstanding of the gamma factor in relativistic equations. The discussion suggests using four-momentum algebra for a more straightforward solution, as it simplifies the energy and momentum conservation equations. Participants express confusion over the application of gamma factors and seek guidance on the correct equations to use. The conversation highlights the complexities of relativistic collisions and the importance of proper equation application.
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Homework Statement


a proton with kinetic energy 10GeV collides with a proton at rest. 1 proton goes off with an angle of 45 degrees relative to the incoming proton. Find the velocity of both protons after the collison. This is an ellastic collision.
E(initial) = 938 mev
i honestly don't know where to start off but here's my attempts at a answer

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The Attempt at a Solution


E=(MC^2)/(1-(v/c)^2)^1/2

V/c= (1-((mc^2)/(E^2)))^1/2 V= .99632c


V= v1 cos (30) + v2 cos(theta)
v1 sin (30) + v2 sin (theta)
E = E1 + E2
10.938 gev = .938 gev/ (1-(v1/c)^2))^1/2 + .938gev/(1-(v2/c)^2)^1/2
substitute and get the answer v1 is .00458
and v2 is .49780
however these answers don't work when put back into the equations..
 
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You forgot the gamma factors in the conservation of momentum equations.
 
Also, you can solve the problem more easily using four-momentum algebra. You then only have to deal with one equation for hte energy of one proton after the collision, you don't have to consider a simultaneous set of equations for the energies and momenta of the two protons after the collision.
 
four momentum algebra..? can u start me off with the equations?
and also where have i missed the gamma..? because i can't seem to find it ..? unless my equations are wrong.
 
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