What are these loops on this jet's wing?

  • Thread starter MathExplorer
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Loops
In summary: I see. So this is meant for an emergency landing on water, and if the wing is ripped off in the process, that's not so bad?Oh, little Mister Sunshine!
  • #1
MathExplorer
13
4
TL;DR Summary
found something weird welded to a jet plane's wing
I was watching a video about a herpetologist's trip to Thailand to study monitor lizards and there was a short part of the youtube video showing a part of the wing of an aircraft this guy was riding in. It's obvious it was a jet plane, but there was these weird loops that appear to be welded to the top of the wing. As a former Caterpillar employee and welder, I can tell this is meant for a crane to haul a wing around before it's attached to a plane(or so I'm guessing)...but why on Earth is it still attached to the wing? What's going on here?

Just curious. :)
 

Attachments

  • wingmystery.jpg
    wingmystery.jpg
    17.1 KB · Views: 146
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
This is for ropes that can be tightened as a handrail in case of an emergency landing on water.
 
  • Informative
  • Like
  • Wow
Likes Klystron, berkeman, anorlunda and 3 others
  • #3
fresh_42 said:
This is for ropes that can be tightened as a handrail in case of an emergency landing on water.
Since overwing is passenger initiated, it seems unreasonable that a particular passenger would really know how to 1. find the rope 2. be able to attach it
 
  • Like
Likes boneh3ad
  • #4
256bits said:
Since overwing is passenger initiated, it seems unreasonable that a particular passenger would really know how to 1. find the rope 2. be able to attach it
A crew member probably would, though ##-## confirming @fresh_42's answer, here's an explanatory video from an Airbus pilot:

 
  • Informative
  • Like
Likes phinds, berkeman and Lnewqban
  • #5
sysprog said:
A crew member probably would, though ##-## confirming @fresh_42's answer, here's an explanatory video from an Airbus pilot:


yes I saw that video.
In a chaotic emergency and everybody out in 90 seconds, the flight attendants man the main exits at floor level.
There is only so much crew to go around and they may be occupied elsewhere.
An attendant would have to be seated next to the wing, or climb over passengers to be the first one out.

These wing exits, much smaller than the main ones, are put in so that a few passengers can get out from the middle of the plane to keep the 90 seconds approved.
Is there a training session for the passengers next to the wing exit on how to find the rope and tie it up.
 
  • #6
I happened to travel (last week) and was seated in the exit row. Being an Engineer-type, I actually reviewed the emergency procedures when prompted to do so. The terminal connection point (the ring/loop) for the guide-rope was addressed in the instructions.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Likes phinds, Klystron, pbuk and 5 others
  • #7
256bits said:
Since overwing is passenger initiated, it seems unreasonable that a particular passenger would really know how to 1. find the rope 2. be able to attach it
Whether it is reasonable is a totally different matter. By this argument, you can also say that life jackets or oxygen masks are a waste. The structure of the plane will be completely destroyed and you will be injured after a landing on water (Sullenberger is an absolute exception for many reasons), and if you need oxygen, then the 10 minutes they work will very likely be too short.
 
  • Like
Likes sysprog and Lnewqban
  • #8
Dullard said:
I happened to travel (last week) and was seated in the exit row. Being an Engineer-type, I actually reviewed the emergency procedures when prompted to do so. The terminal connection point (the ring/loop) for the guide-rope was addressed in the instructions.
Good job. Did they say where the ropes are stored?
 
  • Like
Likes sysprog
  • #9
berkeman said:
Good job. Did they say where the ropes are stored?

If cabin crew must facilitate an emergency exit over the wing, called and "overwing exit," they will pull out ropes from safety lockers above the emergency exit row. Once the exit is open, cabin crew secure one end of the rope in the door frame while the other end of the rope is fed onto the wing and through the small yellow hooks.
Ostensibly, that is covered in the Emergency Instruction card at the exit row.

Ref: https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/yellow-hooks-on-airplane-wing
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Likes 256bits, sysprog and berkeman
  • #10
256bits said:
Is there a training session for the passengers next to the wing exit on how to find the rope and tie it up.
I think it gets very complicated at that level.
  1. Passenger competence to open the door.
  2. Passenger impatience, opening too early.
  3. Passenger competence to clip on the rope.
  4. The requirement is to evacuate the plane in 90 seconds. I'm not sure if that includes the time to get them off the wing onto the ground or onto a raft..
  5. The wings may be ripped off making the rope clips moot. The fuselage could be broken. But the overwing exits might be used nevertheless.
I doubt that a successful 90 second evacuation is dependent on every detail going according to plan. Unplanned obstacles are entirely foreseeable in those emergency conditions.

Edit: Wikpedia also says, "Some aircraft do not permit the use of overwing exits in a ditching and instead instruct passengers to evacuate via a door equipped with a life raft."
 
  • Like
Likes 256bits
  • #11
anorlunda said:
The wings may be ripped off making the rope clips moot.
Oh, little Mister Sunshine! :oldeek:
 
  • Haha
Likes anorlunda
  • #12
berkeman said:
Good job. Did they say where the ropes are stored?
In the case of the aircraft that I was on, the lines were apparently on a spool in the frame of the exit door - accessible after the door was removed.
 
  • Informative
  • Like
Likes Klystron, sysprog and berkeman
  • #13
cool, thanks all for the answers! :)
 
  • Like
Likes berkeman

FAQ: What are these loops on this jet's wing?

What are the loops on a jet's wing?

The loops on a jet's wing are called winglets. They are small, curved structures at the end of the wing that help improve the aircraft's aerodynamics.

What is the purpose of winglets on a jet's wing?

The main purpose of winglets is to reduce drag and improve the aircraft's fuel efficiency. They also help to reduce the amount of turbulence created by the wing, making the flight smoother and more comfortable for passengers.

How do winglets work?

Winglets work by reducing the wing's vortices, which are swirling air currents that form at the wingtips. By reducing these vortices, winglets help to decrease drag and improve the overall efficiency of the aircraft.

Do all jets have winglets?

No, not all jets have winglets. They are a relatively new technology and are not present on all aircraft. However, many newer commercial jets do have winglets installed as they have been shown to improve fuel efficiency.

Are there any disadvantages to using winglets on jets?

One potential disadvantage of winglets is that they add weight to the aircraft, which can slightly increase fuel consumption. Additionally, they may also increase the cost of manufacturing and maintenance for the aircraft. However, the overall benefits of winglets outweigh these potential disadvantages.

Back
Top