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An engineer friend of mine and I are having a debate about heat vs cold. Basically I am saying you can't 'add cold' to a system you can only add or take away heat and for some reason he is disagreeing. Chat of Gchat/AIM
****: 'adding heat' or 'adding cold' are two ways of looking at the same exact thing
'temperature' is simply the vibration of atoms
whether or not you increase or decrease it is irrelevant
me: right but you can't really add cold
you can only take away heat
****: sure you can
its just another way of looking at it
'taking away heat' is the same thing as 'adding cold'
me: but what is atcually happneing
on the molecular level
me: you can keep adding heat to a system
you can't keeep adding cold
****: uhu
sure you can
ull just never hit absolute 0
me: so does heat have a theoritical limit
****: i don't know, heat turns to gama rays
or some ****
me: you can keep adding heat to a system
****: i don't know that
me: yeah well you can't get to abosulte zero. that's the limit. tehre is no heat limit
****: i guess you'll approach a level where it takes an infinaite amount of energy to increase the heat of osmething same way as you can't approach that, you can't approach abs
anyway i have a 200x003 to cool down, fortunately only to -54c
me: you mean, let the air around it heat up
me: adding cold is the retarded way of saying transfering heat away
which is what's actaully happening
****: right and vice versa
no bro
****: what's actually happening is what's actually happening
the way we choose to describe it
is a separate story
me: energy is passed from higher states to lower states
****: huh
no
if you're talking about electrons and valence leveels and **** that not heat
yu're talkikgn about atomic vibrations, simple
me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold
****: granted one causes the other
me: Cooling refers to the process of becoming cold, or lowering in temperature. This could be accomplished by removing heat from a system not 'adding cool'
****: Cold (the opposite of hot) refers to the condition or subjective perception of having low temperature; it is the absence of heat or warmth.
'subjective perception'
exactly
i couldn't have szidf it better myself
me: no the subjective part is what you consider cold vs what i consider cold
****: but 'cold' has as much of a reality as 'heat'
please
cold is 'negative haet'
'evil' is the absense of 'good' and 'good' is the absense of 'evil'
one thing, different descriptions, don't be dumb
An engineer friend of mine and I are having a debate about heat vs cold. Basically I am saying you can't 'add cold' to a system you can only add or take away heat and for some reason he is disagreeing. Chat of Gchat/AIM
****: 'adding heat' or 'adding cold' are two ways of looking at the same exact thing
'temperature' is simply the vibration of atoms
whether or not you increase or decrease it is irrelevant
me: right but you can't really add cold
you can only take away heat
****: sure you can
its just another way of looking at it
'taking away heat' is the same thing as 'adding cold'
me: but what is atcually happneing
on the molecular level
me: you can keep adding heat to a system
you can't keeep adding cold
****: uhu
sure you can
ull just never hit absolute 0
me: so does heat have a theoritical limit
****: i don't know, heat turns to gama rays
or some ****
me: you can keep adding heat to a system
****: i don't know that
me: yeah well you can't get to abosulte zero. that's the limit. tehre is no heat limit
****: i guess you'll approach a level where it takes an infinaite amount of energy to increase the heat of osmething same way as you can't approach that, you can't approach abs
anyway i have a 200x003 to cool down, fortunately only to -54c
me: you mean, let the air around it heat up
me: adding cold is the retarded way of saying transfering heat away
which is what's actaully happening
****: right and vice versa
no bro
****: what's actually happening is what's actually happening
the way we choose to describe it
is a separate story
me: energy is passed from higher states to lower states
****: huh
no
if you're talking about electrons and valence leveels and **** that not heat
yu're talkikgn about atomic vibrations, simple
me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold
****: granted one causes the other
me: Cooling refers to the process of becoming cold, or lowering in temperature. This could be accomplished by removing heat from a system not 'adding cool'
****: Cold (the opposite of hot) refers to the condition or subjective perception of having low temperature; it is the absence of heat or warmth.
'subjective perception'
exactly
i couldn't have szidf it better myself
me: no the subjective part is what you consider cold vs what i consider cold
****: but 'cold' has as much of a reality as 'heat'
please
cold is 'negative haet'
'evil' is the absense of 'good' and 'good' is the absense of 'evil'
one thing, different descriptions, don't be dumb
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