What is the ordered pair (x,y) for the given equation?

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In summary, the ordered pair (x,y) represents a point on a graph or coordinate plane, with x representing the horizontal position and y representing the vertical position. To find the ordered pair for a given equation, you must first solve for both x and y. An ordered pair can have the same value for both x and y, representing a point where the horizontal and vertical positions are the same. Understanding ordered pairs is important in math and science for representing and analyzing data. To graph an ordered pair on a coordinate plane, plot the x value as the horizontal position and the y value as the vertical position.
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If $x$ and $y$ are positive integers such that $\sqrt{8+\sqrt{{32}+\sqrt{768}}}=x\cos \dfrac{\pi}{y}$,

compute the ordered pair $(x,\,y)$.
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Hi MHB,

I want to apologize for I just discovered that I made a typo in this very first high school POTW for the new year and I was in fact being advised by both valuable members (Opalg and lfdahl) of the matter.

My heartfelt thanks and appreciation to Opalg and lfdahl for advising me of the matter. :eek:

The problem has been edited and I am looking forward to your participation to this POTW.

Thank you for reading.
 
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Congratulations to the following members for their correct solutions::)

1. kaliprasad
2. lfdahl

Solution from kaliprasad:

We have

$768 = 1024 * \dfrac{3}{4}= (32 * \dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{2})^2 = (32 *\cos(\dfrac{\pi}{6}))^2$

so $\sqrt{768} = 32 *\cos(\dfrac{\pi}{6})$

and

$\begin{align*}32 + \sqrt{768}&= 32 *(1+\cos(\dfrac{\pi}{6}))---\text{using}\,\,1+\cos 2x = 2 cos^2 x\\&=64 *\cos^2(\dfrac{\pi}{12})\end{align*}$

Taking square root on both sides gives

$\sqrt{32 + \sqrt{768}} = 8 \cos(\dfrac{\pi}{12})$

Therefore
$8 + \sqrt{32 + \sqrt{768}} = 8 ( 1 + \cos(\dfrac{\pi}{12})) = 16 \cos^2 \dfrac{\pi}{24}$

So $\sqrt{8 + \sqrt{32 + \sqrt{768}}} = 4 \cos \dfrac{\pi}{24}$$\therefore x=4,\,y=24$ or $(x,\,y)=(4,\,24)$

Solution from lfdahl:
$x$ and $y$ are positive integers, so I am looking for a cosine value with an exact expression of the form:

\[cos(\frac{\pi }{y})=\frac{\sqrt{8+\sqrt{32+\sqrt{768}}}}{x}=2\frac{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{3}}}}{x} \;\;\;\;\;\;\; (1).\]

I know, that $cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \frac{1}{2}$. By using the well known relation:

\[cos(\frac{\alpha }{2})=\sqrt{\frac{cos(\alpha )+1}{2}}\] I get successively:

\[cos(\frac{\pi }{6})=\sqrt{\frac{cos(\frac{\pi }{3})+1}{2}}=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}
\\\\
cos(\frac{\pi }{12})=\sqrt{\frac{cos(\frac{\pi }{6})+1}{2}}=\frac{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{3}}}{2}
\\\\
cos(\frac{\pi }{24})=\sqrt{\frac{cos(\frac{\pi }{12})+1}{2}}=\frac{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{3}}}}{2}\]

Therefore, the ordered pair $(x,y)=(4,24)$ is a solution to (1).
 

FAQ: What is the ordered pair (x,y) for the given equation?

What is the ordered pair (x,y) for the given equation?

The ordered pair (x,y) represents a point on a graph or coordinate plane. The first number, x, represents the horizontal position of the point, while the second number, y, represents the vertical position.

How do I find the ordered pair (x,y) for a given equation?

To find the ordered pair (x,y) for a given equation, you must first solve for both x and y. This will give you two numbers which you can then write as (x,y).

Can an ordered pair (x,y) have the same value for both x and y?

Yes, an ordered pair (x,y) can have the same value for both x and y. This would represent a point on the graph or coordinate plane where the horizontal and vertical positions are the same.

What is the importance of understanding ordered pairs (x,y) in math and science?

Understanding ordered pairs (x,y) is important in math and science because they are used to represent and analyze data. They allow us to visualize and understand the relationships between two variables and make predictions based on that data.

How can I graph an ordered pair (x,y) on a coordinate plane?

To graph an ordered pair (x,y) on a coordinate plane, you can plot the x value as the horizontal position and the y value as the vertical position. This will give you a point on the graph that represents the ordered pair.

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