What lessons can we learn from Grisha Perelman's story?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the documentary on Perelman and his decision to leave mathematics. One person finds it sad and believes that true passion is necessary for great success in any field. They mention other famous mathematicians who were driven by passion, and express a wish that Perelman had not become embittered and continued to make great contributions to the field.
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Hello

If, like me, you've been looking for a documentary on Perelman for a long time, here it it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng1W2KUHI2s

[youtube]Ng1W2KUHI2s[/youtube]

You can activate the English subtitles by clicking the "Captions" button.
 
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I find that so sad. Here is my take on it:

You can claim you do what you do for love, or for money. If you claim both, you are lying to someone.
 
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Deveno said:
I find that so sad. Here is my take on it:

You can claim you do what you do for love, or for money. If you claim both, you are lying to someone.

I don't think I understood your point. Is the fact that he no longer does mathematics what's sad?

No rational person does a PhD in mathematics for the money. A lot of people do it for the prestige and admiration rather than love for the discipline. But I don't know anybody who did it for money.
 
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ModusPonens said:
I don't think I understood your point. Is the fact that he no longer does mathematics what's sad?

No rational person does a PhD in mathematics for the money. A lot of people do it for the prestige and admiration rather than love for the discipline. But I don't know anybody who did it for money.

It's a classic dichotomy. By "money" I don't actually mean cash, per se-there are lots of "surrogates" for financial wealth in the academic world: tenure, chair of a department, co-credit for important papers.

One often thinks of mathematicians as noble searchers for the truth. The truth is, they are human beings much like any other: a mixture of good and bad intentions, as varied as a smorgasbord.

And yes, what is sad is that Perelman became embittered by the very field he obviously loves. Almost a tragedy like those of the Greeks of antiquity. And, perhaps, a bit of instability at play here. Mathematics at its boundaries is a lonely place, and such solitude takes a heavy toll. He would not be the first great mathematician to have decided that the mathematical world had nothing to offer him: Grassmann and Grothendieck come immediately to mind.
 
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Deveno said:
It's a classic dichotomy. By "money" I don't actually mean cash, per se-there are lots of "surrogates" for financial wealth in the academic world: tenure, chair of a department, co-credit for important papers.

One often thinks of mathematicians as noble searchers for the truth. The truth is, they are human beings much like any other: a mixture of good and bad intentions, as varied as a smorgasbord.

And yes, what is sad is that Perelman became embittered by the very field he obviously loves. Almost a tragedy like those of the Greeks of antiquity. And, perhaps, a bit of instability at play here. Mathematics at its boundaries is a lonely place, and such solitude takes a heavy toll. He would not be the first great mathematician to have decided that the mathematical world had nothing to offer him: Grassmann and Grothendieck come immediately to mind.

It's true that mathematicians are as much human as any other human. But I do think that the success of a mathematician is a lot more positively correlated with the purity of his intentions than people think. Maybe that's a romantic belief I have, idk. One thing that is common to all the people who really change a field of human endeavour, be it mathematics, physics, or comedy is a true passion about the subject.

Erdos didn't win the Fields medal that he deserved because he didn't even bother to reestablish the truth. Grothendieck's case is truly tragic, but he explains his motivation as pure childlike curiosity. Newton only published his work because another man urged him to do it. Feynman decided he wouldn't do anything that didn't interest him after the Manhatan project. And it was then that he made his best work. I'm sure there are plenty of cases I don't remember now. But these are the legends, the ones who are remembered because it's impossible to forget.

I wish Perelman had kept this in mind. Perhaps we would have him working on even more exciting things.
 

FAQ: What lessons can we learn from Grisha Perelman's story?

Who is Grisha Perelman?

Grisha Perelman is a Russian mathematician who is best known for solving the Poincaré conjecture, one of the most famous unsolved problems in mathematics.

What is the Poincaré conjecture?

The Poincaré conjecture is a mathematical problem that asks whether any three-dimensional shape without holes is essentially the same as a sphere. It was first posed by French mathematician Henri Poincaré in 1904 and remained unsolved for over a century until Grisha Perelman proved it in 2003.

What is the documentary about?

The documentary about Grisha Perelman is a film that tells the story of his life and his groundbreaking achievement in solving the Poincaré conjecture. It also explores his reclusive nature and his decision to decline both the Fields Medal and the $1 million prize for solving the problem.

Why did Grisha Perelman decline the Fields Medal and the prize money?

Grisha Perelman has always been a very private and reclusive person, and he did not want to be in the spotlight or receive any recognition for his work. He also had a strong belief that mathematics should not be about fame or money, but rather the pursuit of knowledge and truth.

Is the documentary available to watch online?

The documentary about Grisha Perelman is not currently available to watch online. It has been screened at various film festivals and events, but has not been released for public viewing. However, it may be available for streaming or purchase in the future.

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