What Lies Beyond the Universe?

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The discussion explores the concept of what lies beyond the universe, questioning whether anything truly falls out of space or if distant objects simply become undetectable due to redshift. Participants debate the relationship between physics and philosophy, emphasizing that both are necessary for a comprehensive understanding of reality. There is a contention about the existence of something before the universe and the nature of time, with some suggesting that time may not have a beginning or end. The conversation also touches on the personal experiences and self-education of the contributors, highlighting a disdain for conventional academic structures. Ultimately, the thread reflects a deep curiosity about the universe and the philosophical implications of its existence.
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All falls out of this universe. Over the horizon.
No longer 'part of this'
Yet what has fallen out. Pulls more in. Thus it is part of this.
What am i missing here?
Is em a nice outfit clothing the brute power of gravity. The destroyer and the maker.

Physics without philosophy is sterile.
Philosophy without physics is futile.

Louis
 
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Nothing falls out of 'space. Distant objects can redshift out of detectability, not outside our universe.
 
Addendum - We live in an eternally connected patch of whatever the universe arose from. Call it causality.
 
An illusion was carved in the stone. The arrows show where to go. Trust in yourself, truth awaits you here.
 
Chronos

Who told you this? The 'i believe' imp?
The universe is all of reality? How Parochial
If this universe is all there is.. what existed before it?
The magic world of dreams and lost loves.?
Your posts hint that you don't believe this.
Why the 'Nothing falls out of 'space. Distant objects can redshift out of detectability, not outside our universe.'
When space is turned into something totally crazy below the horizon instead of just an 'unknown' above it.
WHo knows what IS below the horizon.. we dont. Yes any EH occupies extentsion in our universe.. And is even shaped by initial spin.
The bang is an event.
And a minor one in the scheme of things.
To your addendum.
True in a Heisenberg way. I have the absolute temerity to suggest time has no beginning or end. For this i will be burnt alive.. :)

Good post love the avatar.

Louis
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PS i have no formal 'education', everything i say i taught myself. Have no time for the fools and politics of the ivory castle.
I proove NOTHING. My job is to ask questions.
So pls be patient. I tend to incorporate real life into the crap jargon so many are fond of spouting. Albert tried this and i does not work. I persevere.
Im a consulting stochastic analist. Worth big$. Go figure. I type this on my 30" screen on a water cooled PC i built myself.
In a house with 50 k$ mahogany loungeroom leaf doors. Garnished from a world before 'save the rain forrests'
All from the whitebread darwinian snakepit i was thrown in.
The pity i have is for those without opportunity.Seemingly a product of a species without reason.
I grabbed my opportunity, as do all who know death.
 
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