What value of resistor gives how much voltage, formula?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of connecting a 3-volt LED to a 220-volt AC power supply, including the necessary calculations for resistor values and safety concerns. Participants explore the implications of using AC power for LEDs, the need for proper power conversion, and the risks associated with high voltage electricity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a formula to determine the output voltage from a resistor when connected to 220 volts AC, expressing a desire for an application to calculate resistor values for a specific output.
  • Some participants emphasize that a diode (LED) requires DC power, suggesting that a power supply is necessary to convert AC to DC, rather than using a resistor alone.
  • Warnings are issued regarding the dangers of working with 220V AC, including the risk of electric shock and fire hazards due to power dissipation in resistors.
  • It is noted that while theoretically possible to run an LED from AC, it would only illuminate during half of the AC cycle, potentially affecting the LED's lifespan and causing interference.
  • Participants mention the importance of calculating the current limiting resistor based on the LED's forward current and using online calculators or Ohm's law for these calculations.
  • A later reply stresses that the original poster may lack the necessary experience to safely handle high voltages and suggests finding alternative lighting solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dangers associated with using 220V AC and the need for proper power conversion for LEDs. However, there is disagreement on the feasibility of directly connecting an LED to AC power and the role of resistors in this setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the use of resistors with AC voltage and the operation of LEDs, but these assumptions are not universally accepted or resolved. The discussion highlights the complexity of safely working with high voltage electricity.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring electrical engineering, DIY electronics projects, or those seeking to understand the implications of using LEDs with AC power supplies.

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In my home I am getting 220 AC Volts of electricity. I want to connect white color Light Emitting Diod (LED) that requires 3 volts output with the resistor which will be connected to 220 Volts power. So can anybody please tell me what is the formula to find that how much voltage is output from a resistor when 220 volts of AC voltage is applied. I want to use this so that I'll be able to have only this much light in the room where I sleep. I'll be very thankful for anyone who'll answer.

Also if anyone knows some relevant useful links then do please let me know. I searched and found a very interesting windows application in which if you enter color codes' information of the resistor, it'll tell you what the resistance value of this resistor is. This is the link of the website http://www.doctronics.co.uk/download.htm you can download this application from here.

But I want an application such that if I tell it to tell me resistor's value of a resistor which gives output of 3 volts i.e I'll input 3 volts in the edit box of the application and then on pressing the calculate button it'll tell me the resistor's value and all the color codes as well. I don't know whether anyone has developed this application, if not then it should be as it is something very useful.

Once again anyone's help will be very much appreciated.
 
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A diode requires DC, so there is no resistor that will do what you are asking. You need some kind of power supply which will convert the AC to DC. You may be able to find a wall wart that does what you need.
 
Welcome to PF
First a warning, 220V AC can easily KILL you
Second warning - the resistor will be dumping a lot of power (5-10W) so will get hot, this could start a fire

in theory you can run an LED from AC it will simply turn on and off 50times/second but it's not really something you want to do.
 
Integral said:
A diode requires DC, so there is no resistor that will do what you are asking. You need some kind of power supply which will convert the AC to DC. You may be able to find a wall wart that does what you need.

But I've seen this i.e in a device I saw that a red color light emitting LED was connected to a resistor and it was working fine. Then why can't a white color emitting LED do that same. I have a resistor and I tried this experiment but the LED was giving very small amount of light as compared to when I connected it with wall wart's 3 volts outtput.
 
mgb_phys said:
Welcome to PF
First a warning, 220V AC can easily KILL you
Second warning - the resistor will be dumping a lot of power (5-10W) so will get hot, this could start a fire

in theory you can run an LED from AC it will simply turn on and off 50times/second but it's not really something you want to do.

Please see my previous reply then do reply based on that reply.
 
You can connect an LED to an AC supply it will simply only turn on for half the cycle.
At 50Hz it will turn on and off 50times per second which probably isn't noticable it may effect the life of the LED and coul cause interference so you wouldn't do this in a commercial product.

To calculate the current limiting resistor you need to know the forward current in the diode, then you can use any of the online resistor calculators (http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz) or Ohm's law.

Remember you also need to calculate the power in the resistor, if you can't do this you probably shoudln't be playing with lethal voltages
 
Your posts make it clear that you are not experienced enough with electricity to be attempting this project. 220 VAC is deadly stuff, and you should not be anywhere near it. It can take months to learn the techniques necessary to safely work with high voltages. It is against our policy to provide advice which may lead to harm. I suggest that you find another way to light your room. Thread closed.

- Warren
 

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