When Does the Logarithmic p-Series Converge?

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In summary, the conversation was about determining the convergence or divergence of the logarithmic p-series for different values of p. The individual was attempting to solve the problem using the integral test, but ran into some trouble with the substitution. They eventually figured out that for 0<p<1, the series diverges, and for p>1, the series converges. It was also mentioned that the series converges for p=1, but diverges for p≤0.
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So I've been trying to make some progress on this question for my Calc 2 class, here it is:
"The Logarithmic p-series is defined by (sigma summation n=2 to infinity) of 1/(n(ln(n)))p) for p>0. Determine for which values of p it is convergent or divergent."

So off the bat I kind of assumed that to do this with a constant p, and seeing the series is decreasing and positive, I should use the integral test. Set up the integral of this series, and I made a substitution u for ln(n). this ended up with (u-p+1)/(p+1) and I plugged the ln(n) back in and this is where I got kind of lost. Plugging in the limits of integration seemed to be a little messy, and I didn't really know where to go from there. If someone wants to give me a hint or a little guidance that would be nice. Thanks.
 
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I just replied to this but deleted it because I misinterpreted your problem. I would suggest taking some time to learn Latex as it makes things much easier to read.

So you have \(\displaystyle \sum_{n=2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n \left(\ln n \right)^p}\)

As you said with the substitution of $u=\ln n$ this integral becomes \(\displaystyle \int \frac{1}{u^p}du=u^{-p}du\) We can solve this and then back-substitute, then plug in the limits.

You were close on your solution, but the denominator should be -p, not p.

\(\displaystyle \int u^{-p}du=\frac{u^{-p+1}}{-p+1}+C\)

Plugging back in the substitution $u=\ln n$ that becomes

\(\displaystyle \frac{(\ln n)^{-p+1}}{-p+1}\)

That's pretty much where you are though, so how do we proceed from here? Consider the end behavior of $\ln n$ as $n \rightarrow \infty$. Now also consider positive and negative exponent rules. What happens when there is a negative exponent?

More specifically, if the exponent in the numerator $-p+1$ is positive then does this converge or diverge? What about if it's negative?
 
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Okay that helped a lot. At first your questions were kind of getting me confused, but I wrote it out and I think I got the answer. when 0<p<1, the numerator will approach infinity and therefore the whole term diverges. And when p>1 the numerator will have to be flipped over and multiplied by 1/-p+1. Therefore the whole term will always approach zero and converge. Correct?
 
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skatenerd said:
(Having a hard time finding latex...)
Okay that helped a lot. At first your questions were kind of getting me confused, but I wrote it out and I think I got the answer. when 0<p<1, the numerator will approach infinity and therefore the whole term diverges. And when p>1 the numerator will have to be flipped over and multiplied by 1/-p+1. Therefore the whole term will always approach zero and converge. Correct?

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Yep, you're spot on. For $p<1$ (it doesn't just have to be between 0 and 1 in theory) the exponent is positive and the integral diverges, thus the series diverges. When $p>1$ the exponent flips and the $\ln n$ term is now in the denominator so the integral converges. When $p=1$ the integral diverges just because we are dividing by $-p+1$ so the whole thing converges for $p>1$, which should be pointed out is different than $p \ge 1$.

I think you got all of that already but just want to double check.
 
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Yep. That makes perfect sense now. Thanks! I appreciate the help.
 
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Just an addendum, it has to be $0<p<1$ because one of the hypothesis is $p>0$. I believe that if you take out that it would still be valid, but it's best to remember that bit. :D
 
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Fantini said:
Just an addendum, it has to be $0<p<1$ because one of the hypothesis is $p>0$. I believe that if you take out that it would still be valid, but it's best to remember that bit. :D

Oops. Missed that. Good catch :)
 

FAQ: When Does the Logarithmic p-Series Converge?

What is a logarithmic p-series?

A logarithmic p-series is a type of mathematical series where the terms are expressed in the form of 1/(n^p), where n is the index of the term and p is a constant.

What is the significance of p in a logarithmic p-series?

The value of p determines the convergence or divergence of the series. If p is greater than 1, the series will converge, while if p is less than or equal to 1, the series will diverge.

How do you calculate the sum of a logarithmic p-series?

To find the sum of a logarithmic p-series, you can use the formula S = 1 + 1/2^p + 1/3^p + 1/4^p +..., where S is the sum and p is the constant. This formula only works for p > 1, for p <= 1, the series will not have a finite sum.

What are some real-life applications of logarithmic p-series?

Logarithmic p-series are commonly used in mathematical and scientific fields to model various phenomena, such as population growth, radioactive decay, and heat transfer. They also have applications in finance, physics, and engineering.

How do logarithmic p-series relate to calculus and integrals?

The sum of a logarithmic p-series can be found using integration techniques in calculus. Additionally, logarithmic p-series are often used to approximate integrals and can be used to find the area under certain curves.

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